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Help me understand the difference between "Global warming"

Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:57 pm
Posted by ApexTiger
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:57 pm
and "Climate change".

I was told that Climate Change is the "more accurate" description...

ok...what does that mean?

The Earth can fit inside the Sun 1 million times and because we're on a 23.5 degree axis, common sense suggests weather patterns are going to change.
Posted by StrangeBrew
Salvation Army-Thanks Obama
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:07 pm to
All you need to know is consensus.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123942 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:28 pm to
quote:

Help me understand the difference between "Global warming"
and "Climate change".

I was told that Climate Change is the "more accurate" description.
GISS Temperature Data Change is apparently the newest "more accurate" description
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:31 pm to
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The Earth can fit inside the Sun 1 million times and because we're on a 23.5 degree axis, common sense suggests weather patterns are going to change.


Eureka!! You've discovered that the Sun is responsible for Global Warming.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18074 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:39 pm to
They changed its name again last month. We are gonna call it "climate disruption" now.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:57 pm to
When has the climate not been changing?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:08 pm to
quote:

Help me understand the difference between "Global warming" and "Climate change".

I was told that Climate Change is the "more accurate" description...

ok...what does that mean?

It means that "global warming" leaves the door open for dipshits to say "yeah it warms up every summer durrr", so then you have to come up with new terms that hopefully people won't misunderstand.

Obviously, they are fighting a losing battle. It is a complex subject and the vast majority of people have absolutely no hope to ever understand whatever term they use, much less what's actually happening, the possible causes, and why it may be necessary to do something about it.
Posted by The Calvin
Member since Jun 2013
5240 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:19 pm to
Global Warming is a term made up by godless liberal scientists with an agenda to brainwash our children into believing that the earth is warming up at an alarming rate with the ultimate goal of converting us all into nature loving, interracial sex having, electric car driving figs
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:51 pm to
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"climate disruption"

They quickly dumped that

Its now 'climate justice'

That way they can never be pinned down to actual weather patterns
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 2:34 am to
What do you really want to know?

Climate change means all the problems around weather caused by global warming.

None of that matters here in the land of denial. Somehow scientists are all in on the scam, but conservative Americans are the ones who are right.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123942 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 3:03 am to
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Somehow scientists are all in on the scam
Indeed.

"Somehow" . . . .
quote:

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration has been criticized for manipulating temperature records to give the illusion of a warming trend. Since then, the agency has been caught changing temperature data from both the past and present.

A couple of years ago, NASA scientists and climatologists declared July 2012 to be the hottest month in a report titled, "Too Hot to Handle?" During the summer months of that year, the country experienced widespread drought and wildfires burned more than 1.3 million acres of land, according to NASA statistics and data.

Now, according to NOAA's National Climatic Data Center in 2012, the "average temperature for the contiguous U.S. during July was 77.6°F, 3.3°F above the 20th century average, marking the warmest July and all-time warmest month on record for the nation in a period of record that dates back to 1895."
.......

When meteorologist and climate blogger Anthony Watts went to check the NOAA data [June 29] he found that the science agency had quietly reinstated July 1936 as the hottest month on record in the U.S.

LINK
What would you term it, Tigah in the ATL?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58034 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 3:25 am to
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What would you term it, Tigah in the ATL?



The terms are" boom" and "crickets!"
This post was edited on 7/1/14 at 3:26 am
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
10943 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 4:55 am to
The terms are "obscure & biased website".

NOAA isn't trying to hide anything but I chuckled at the first paragraph of that article. Most of y'all are guilty of exactly what you accuse when it comes to GW.

Read a little more on "natural news". I mean, where do y'all dig up these sites?
This post was edited on 7/1/14 at 4:59 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42609 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 6:05 am to
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Help me understand the difference between "Global warming" and "Climate change".

Why do you hate science?

numbskull, the debate is over - the science is settled.

try to keep up.



I have pondered this change since it happened. Seems to me it is a direct admission that AGW is another dubious agenda-driven political hoax.

Climate changes - if it didn't, it would always be the same. How someone can make a political movement out of such drivel is beyond my ken.

And if it is changing, it has to be getting warmer or colder. Which one is it? Since they abandoned the 'warming' moniker, it must be getting colder - and if that is the case we should be pumping more greenhouse gases into the air.

Their argument is bullshite. But they are in the job of appealing to stupid or radical idiots. Nothing they say has to be logical - only designed to tug on whatever emotion they can manipulate for the day.
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 6:18 am to
quote:

What would you term it, Tigah in the ATL?


Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42609 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 6:20 am to
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Temperature Data Change is apparently the newest "more accurate" description

True dat!!

Tweaking the prediction models is just so much work!!

Much easier to just tweak the data.

Seriously - in the scope of earth's history we are in a mere instance of time. Whatever happens on a day-to-day basis, or even year-by-year, or decade-by-decade, basis is irrelevant to the overall trends of climate, which is driven primarily by random solar variations and the physics of of our long term orbital characteristics.

In the view of our climate, we are still recovering from an ice age.

NOTE TO LIBTARDS - to recover from an ICE AGE - the climate must get WARMER. If it didn't, we'd be back in an ICE AGE!!!!

And the ultimate question - Just what IS the 'correct' temperature which we should be sacrificing our economy and freedom to approach?
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51648 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:37 am to
"Global Warming" - if glacier ice shrinks, it's because Man has caused the Earth to warm up. If glacier ice thickens, the study is faulty.

"Climate Change" - if glacier ice shrinks, it's all because Man has caused the Earth to warm up. If glacier ice thickens, it's all because Man has caused the Earth to warm up.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:52 am to

Nobody with any critical thinking skills would argue that "global warming" as a trend, exists, the problem is the idea that somehow man has altered what are normal warming/cooling trends.

So walking back the warming to change was only natural since indeed we have known climate has changed a good bit since the paleozoic era. How to blame man for all of it is the problem our modern genius's like Al Gore and the political stooges in federally funded agencies must work out now. Lucky for them there are plenty of Obomba voters who will believe anything they are told.


Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10832 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:58 am to
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NOAA isn't trying to hide anything but I chuckled at the first paragraph of that article. Most of y'all are guilty of exactly what you accuse when it comes to GW.



So which was the hottest month on record July '12 or July '36?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108526 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 8:02 am to
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NOTE TO LIBTARDS - to recover from an ICE AGE - the climate must get WARMER. If it didn't, we'd be back in an ICE AGE!!!!


You really are oblivious to how stupid you sound.
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