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US soccer academy playoffs

Posted on 6/27/14 at 11:27 am
Posted by DriveByBBQ
Willard's Garage
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 11:27 am
Picked them up on instagram @USSOCCER_ACAD looks highly competitive...They're playing in Indiana. Anyone else following this? How's the talent pool? Are these the kids that will be in the next WC? Any of these kids have a chance to go straight to the pros?

I guess just tell me more about it...
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 11:34 am to
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Are these the kids that will be in the next WC?

Not likely.
Posted by Tiger Phil
I see burnt orange everywhere
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 11:44 am to
These are the players that are barred from competing for their high school teams because US Soccer has decided that is what is best for the 5 or so of them out of 3700 that might ever make a senior national team squad. Therefore the other 3695 of them must make that sacrifice.

Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36451 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 11:53 am to
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These are the players that are barred from competing for their high school teams because US Soccer has decided that is what is best for the 5 or so of them out of 3700 that might ever make a senior national team squad. Therefore the other 3695 of them must make that sacrifice.

this.

but pretty much just these are the kids that will play high level college soccer (and lower level college soccer). a number of them will play professionally in some capacity and a couple will possibly have a shot at the national team someday.
This post was edited on 6/27/14 at 11:58 am
Posted by Tiger Phil
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 12:12 pm to
Also I read a great article on Tim Howard a couple of days ago, which detailed how he played midfield for his HS team while being the U-17 NT GK.

US Soccer Would Not Allow This Madness Any Longer

Sure, there are arguments for the rule, but I think that the fact that you are forcing 14-17 year olds to forego playing with their friends and for their school is a bad rule.
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 12:31 pm to
Based on some of Howard's kicks when the ball is actually rolling toward him, it's a good thing he decided to play goalie and not in the field.
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:21 pm to
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These are the players that are barred from competing for their high school teams because US Soccer has decided that is what is best for the 5 or so of them out of 3700 that might ever make a senior national team squad. Therefore the other 3695 of them must make that sacrifice.


I love high school soccer and have tried to help grow it in our neck of the woods (and it IS growing).

But there is fault on both sides of the equation. At least here in Louisiana the LHSAA has some pretty strict rules about how many high school players can play together out of season, especially if the high school coach is coaching them.

Also, to avoid too many conflicts with football and baseball, the LHSAA has put the high school soccer season dead smack in he middle of winter. It is not unusual to see sub 32 degree games.

I think both (or more properly, all) sides can work together better.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:25 pm to
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Also, to avoid too many conflicts with football and baseball, the LHSAA has put the high school soccer season dead smack in he middle of winter. It is not unusual to see sub 32 degree games.



Yup. We had some seriously cold games when I played.
Posted by Tiger Phil
I see burnt orange everywhere
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 5:05 pm to
In Texas, we play high school soccer from January to April as well. There are some extremely cold games!

Believe or not, with respect to the USSDA "no high school soccer" rule, it would be better for the season to take place in the fall. There are some states that do this. In these cases, the players that wish to play both can skip the Academy games in the fall to play HS, then get rostered on their Academy teams once the HS season is over. You can't do that trick in Texas, as they would have to miss ALL the games in the fall and ALL the games at the start of the spring.

Also, it is only SOCCER that is off-limits for these players. They can play football, basketball, marching band, whatever. Just no SOCCER.
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:00 pm to
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These are the players that are barred from competing for their high school teams because US Soccer has decided that is what is best for the 5 or so of them out of 3700 that might ever make a senior national team squad. Therefore the other 3695 of them must make that sacrifice.


I hear what you're saying. To be honest though, that is a drawback of the whole "club" thing in soccer and "travel" thing in baseball and "AAU" in basketball. It may benefit the top few but to do so it has to convince a lot of parents that their kids are actually in those few. They need the cannon fodder so to speak (and the fees - though I'm assuming that the US soccer academy must be self funding and not rely on fees from the players?)
Posted by Tiger Phil
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 9:03 pm to
AAU Basketball players and travel baseball players can still play their sport for their school, should they choose. USSDA players can not make that choice.

Most of the Academies that are tied to MLS clubs are free to the players, as they have revenue from the parent club. However, there are many more clubs that have USSDA teams. Most of those teams are funded by the players' families.
Posted by taeemwar
Dallas
Member since Apr 2010
537 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 9:37 pm to
My son played USSDA. The club picked up part of the expenses but not all of it. When he played you could still play HS but that changed about a year later. He loved playing club but I am not sure he would have given up HS soccer. He also played football which was really frown on by the club coach.
Posted by Tiger Phil
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 11:10 pm to
That's great.

Look, you're only in high school once, so you should have the freedom to do it all.

Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
Member since Nov 2013
7436 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 3:11 am to
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These are the players that are barred from competing for their high school teams because US Soccer has decided that is what is best for the 5 or so of them out of 3700 that might ever make a senior national team squad. Therefore the other 3695 of them must make that sacrifice.


The rule is rather strange. However, it is the system in place in most other countries. If a player is in an academy, they are playing only for that academy, and they are doing it year-round. I would not be the slightest bit surprised if this is part of Jurgen's plan to improve the American youth system. It may not be the best solution for every individual, but it is the best system (or at least a step in the right direction) for developing talent.
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