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Please advise,- I watched Rachel Maddow last night
Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:52 am
Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:52 am
I reckon I am curious what the left is saying these days because I checked out the last 8 months on evening news and politics.
last night,she was going on about paid contraceptives through ObamaCare.
She had some liberal guest on saying that Religious people are forcing their beliefs on society by taking opposition to "doing the right thing".
Even my wife chirped up and was a little upset for suggesting that people against the idea free contraceptives via ObamaCare are the ones doing the pushing of their views on others.
How did it become that Religious people are the ones pushing their agenda when a new grand idea like Gay marriage or free condoms is "pushing their religion on the public"?
It's completely the other way around is it not?
Leave things as they have always been and we don't even have to make eye contact with each other.
I realize there is a big push for Conservatives to just chill on these social issues but part of me gets riled up when the left uses certain language that puts you in a defensive position.
You have the freedom to live, love and sleep anyone want you want in this country. You can buy a box of condom for 6 bucks. So what is the big deal? What is so unfair about the world?
How is the heck did we get into this hole of shoving gay marriage on society and we should accept this lifestyle as "legit and legal" and oh by they way be paying for other people's sex protection via ObamaCare ?
And social conservatives are the ones pushing our agenda for simply putting up a stiff arm?
The people playing offense are the ones pushing their views on society...
Am I wrong? If so, why?
last night,she was going on about paid contraceptives through ObamaCare.
She had some liberal guest on saying that Religious people are forcing their beliefs on society by taking opposition to "doing the right thing".
Even my wife chirped up and was a little upset for suggesting that people against the idea free contraceptives via ObamaCare are the ones doing the pushing of their views on others.
How did it become that Religious people are the ones pushing their agenda when a new grand idea like Gay marriage or free condoms is "pushing their religion on the public"?
It's completely the other way around is it not?
Leave things as they have always been and we don't even have to make eye contact with each other.
I realize there is a big push for Conservatives to just chill on these social issues but part of me gets riled up when the left uses certain language that puts you in a defensive position.
You have the freedom to live, love and sleep anyone want you want in this country. You can buy a box of condom for 6 bucks. So what is the big deal? What is so unfair about the world?
How is the heck did we get into this hole of shoving gay marriage on society and we should accept this lifestyle as "legit and legal" and oh by they way be paying for other people's sex protection via ObamaCare ?
And social conservatives are the ones pushing our agenda for simply putting up a stiff arm?
The people playing offense are the ones pushing their views on society...
Am I wrong? If so, why?
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Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:57 am to ApexTiger
You are wrong because your logic is impeccable.
When a logical conclusion cannot be assailed, it is just labeled 'wrong' because of some made-up 'equality' shite.
When a logical conclusion cannot be assailed, it is just labeled 'wrong' because of some made-up 'equality' shite.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:59 am to ApexTiger
By definition, demanding that I pay for someone else's birth control is forcing THEIR beliefs upon me.
Now, that describes a lot of taxation but, these assholes need to at least get their story correct. Claiming that a person NOT wanting to be forced to support something is the one pushing their beliefs on others is goddamned bass ackwards.
That's like a pro-military person pushing for higher taxes to support a larger military arguing that the anti-war crowds is "forcing their beliefs" upon those who want a strong military.
Now, that describes a lot of taxation but, these assholes need to at least get their story correct. Claiming that a person NOT wanting to be forced to support something is the one pushing their beliefs on others is goddamned bass ackwards.
That's like a pro-military person pushing for higher taxes to support a larger military arguing that the anti-war crowds is "forcing their beliefs" upon those who want a strong military.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 7:15 am to ApexTiger
quote:
How is the heck did we get into this hole of shoving gay marriage
ISWYDT
Posted on 6/26/14 at 7:18 am to Choctaw
That which has been seen cannot be unseen
Posted on 6/26/14 at 7:35 am to ApexTiger
quote:
Please advise,- I watched Rachel Maddow last night
My advice... don't do that again. Ever.
And no, you are not wrong.
This post was edited on 6/26/14 at 7:38 am
Posted on 6/26/14 at 7:38 am to Choctaw
LOL
I honestly didn't realize what I did there
I honestly didn't realize what I did there
Posted on 6/26/14 at 7:45 am to ApexTiger
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ApexTiger
You are intolerant and you are regressive.
Next question.
This post was edited on 6/26/14 at 7:46 am
Posted on 6/26/14 at 7:47 am to ApexTiger
quote:
Religious people are forcing their beliefs on society
hate it when Maddow blast the muslims
Posted on 6/26/14 at 7:52 am to ApexTiger
quote:
I realize there is a big push for Conservatives to just chill on these social issues
When you start to talk about people getting contraceptives with someone else's money, it morphs into a fiscal issue. They're either propagandizing or too dumb to realize the difference. Not sure which is worse.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 7:57 am to ApexTiger
You just need to be re-educated.
It isn't about "religious" people, it's only about Christians.
The left hates Christians, and now the economic conservatives/libertarians are starting to hate Christians. They both hate Christians for the same reason: they don't want anyone holding them to any moral standard. Case in point, Rachel Maddow hates Christians because they don't condone her sexual preference, so every chance she gets, she finds a way to take a shot at them.
Libertarians generally hate Christians because their viewpoints aren't cool anymore and "won't win elections".
It seems to be the one thing the majority of Americans agree on.
It isn't about "religious" people, it's only about Christians.
The left hates Christians, and now the economic conservatives/libertarians are starting to hate Christians. They both hate Christians for the same reason: they don't want anyone holding them to any moral standard. Case in point, Rachel Maddow hates Christians because they don't condone her sexual preference, so every chance she gets, she finds a way to take a shot at them.
Libertarians generally hate Christians because their viewpoints aren't cool anymore and "won't win elections".
It seems to be the one thing the majority of Americans agree on.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 7:57 am to ApexTiger
quote:
It's completely the other way around is it not?
Excellent thoughts.
It's like your teenage kid busting into the living room screaming "Why won't you let me go to a keg party this weekend! You are obsessed with me not going!" when the subject of their going to a keg party has never been brought up.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 8:02 am to ApexTiger
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How did it become that Religious people are the ones pushing their agenda when a new grand idea like Gay marriage or free condoms is "pushing their religion on the public"?
Because your religious views are exactly that - YOUR religious views. You don't agree with contraception? Fine, nobody is forcing you to use it. But you don't get to tell other people they can't use it because of your religious views.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 8:05 am to ApexTiger
Also, if liberals were genuine about their distaste with religious intolerance, they would start with Islam and work their way down to Christianity.
They are not genuine.
They view intolerance of Muslim intolerance to be intolerant.
They are not genuine.
They view intolerance of Muslim intolerance to be intolerant.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 8:10 am to The Spleen
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But you don't get to tell other people they can't use it because of your religious views.
I don't care if you use or don't use contraception. But I shouldn't have to pay for YOUR contraception.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 8:11 am to The Spleen
quote:
But you don't get to tell other people they can't use it because of your religious views.
Distorted liberal logic perfectly explained.
He is not saying you cannot use it. Use it as much as you want. He simply does not want to pay for it for others because of his religious beliefs.
More tolerance.
ETA: NikolaiJakov beat me to the punch.
This post was edited on 6/26/14 at 8:13 am
Posted on 6/26/14 at 8:13 am to NikolaiJakov
Boo Hoo. I don't like that I have to pay for treatment for fat people that make terrible eating decisions. Nor do I like that I have to pay to fix an idiot teenager's car when he wrecks it. But that's how insurance works. Your money goes into a pool that pays for other people's decisions.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 8:15 am to The Spleen
Your right to be free includes my right to be free from you...
Posted on 6/26/14 at 8:15 am to The Spleen
quote:
Boo Hoo. I don't like that I have to pay for treatment for fat people that make terrible eating decisions. Nor do I like that I have to pay to fix an idiot teenager's car when he wrecks it. But that's how insurance works. Your money goes into a pool that pays for other people's decisions.
Again, your distorted liberal logic. Are those preferences based upon your religious beliefs?
No.
They are simple economics instead.
And by the way, I didn't ask to be put into an insurance pool in the first place.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 8:20 am to Wolfhound45
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He simply does not want to pay for it for others because of his religious beliefs.
Boo hoo. Guess what? Just about every health insurance policy was covering a lot of contraceptives BEFORE Obamacare, but we didn't hear much angst over that did we?
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