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Posted on 6/25/14 at 11:19 pm
Posted on 6/25/14 at 11:19 pm
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 11:46 pm to Asgard Device
But do all their hard drives mysteriously crash right after a huge scandal breaks?
Posted on 6/26/14 at 12:00 am to DevilDogTiger
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But do all their hard drives mysteriously crash right after a huge scandal breaks?
Most Louisiana political appointees aren't dumb enough to save incriminating emails to their local hard drive, but if it was discovered that officials had incriminating emails on their hard drives, then I wouldn't put it past them to pull an IRS. Person I know that works at DOA was instructed by a political appointee to use gmail to correspond with him about state business, so there's always that.
I believe they use mapped network drives for their "my documents" folders so any PSTs full of emails would likely be saved there, and would have been gone in 30 days (once deleted.)
This post was edited on 6/26/14 at 12:03 am
Posted on 6/26/14 at 12:01 am to Asgard Device
If they are gone, looks like the law has been broken
Posted on 6/26/14 at 12:21 am to John McClane
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f they are gone, looks like the law has been broken
Maybe not--how is "record" defined? Everyone assumes all emails are part of official records, but that is not necessarily so.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:39 am to Asgard Device
frick them "retaining the records," and those requirements and possible loopholes. This looks like them giving Aswell the run-around and I bet those emails are available somewhere, but maybe not readily so, to DOA staff. Plausible inaccessibility, if you will.
Why can't we just require govt to have gigantic server capacity (at all levels) such that all emails can be stored, and if it meets the definition of a public record, is made available to the public?
Why can't we just require govt to have gigantic server capacity (at all levels) such that all emails can be stored, and if it meets the definition of a public record, is made available to the public?
Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:46 am to Asgard Device
Aswell is full of it.
I worked there. Our emails went back years just on the servers - not including archival services.
You can end this thread now. Thanks.
I worked there. Our emails went back years just on the servers - not including archival services.
You can end this thread now. Thanks.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:55 am to theunknownknight
So they lied to him?
Posted on 6/26/14 at 7:02 am to Asgard Device
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he was unable to get deleted emails
HE is probably mostly computer illiterate.
that does NOT mean an archive service cannot retrieve the email. that's what everyone is laughing about. everyone knows an email doesn't disappear because a hard drive failed or you threw it into a trash compactor. email can ALWAYS be found.
but these governmenal people don't seem to understand, or they do and they are lying anyways because the public is mostly retarded.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 7:07 am to 90proofprofessional
I don't care what was said to anyone. I worked with that email client etc for years.
The state stores its emails longer than 30 days. Period. They store them for years.
The state stores its emails longer than 30 days. Period. They store them for years.
This post was edited on 6/26/14 at 7:08 am
Posted on 6/26/14 at 7:08 am to theunknownknight
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Aswell is full of it.
I worked there. Our emails went back years just on the servers - not including archival services.
You can end this thread now. Thanks.
The OP has tried multiple times to indicate that archiving emails on the client computer is reasonable.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 8:03 am to Asgard Device
Absolute bull shite answer. He's wrong and he knows it.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 8:14 am to kingbob
He said specifically "deleted emails". Microsoft Exchange has a server side setting for purging deleted e-mails from the server after so many days. After the purge period, those e-mails cannot by recovered directly from the server through conventional means.
However, deleted e-mails could still easily be recovered from proper backups even after the purge period has passed.
However, deleted e-mails could still easily be recovered from proper backups even after the purge period has passed.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 8:43 am to jdd48
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However, deleted e-mails could still easily be recovered from proper backups even after the purge period has passed.
This is what I'm talking about. He's just stone-walling because the emails are not "readily accessible". Just like if I was being audited or investigated for anything, any emails I had deleted that way would be dredged up immediately. However, the government holds itself to a different standard that you or I could never get away with. Didn't it used to be the other way around? Was there not a time when government held itself to a higher standard?
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