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? for world history experts...re: Hegemony

Posted on 6/24/14 at 11:53 am
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 11:53 am
A long time ago I did research on Hegemonic shifts. Short explanation... Ever since, let's say, The Roman Empire there has always been a dominant global culture.

That culture goes into decline and is replaced by another Hegemon. During periods of domination there is general peace, although there are always conflicts. During periods of transition there is war, chaos, anxst, gnashing of toofus, etc.

So, since the US is the Hegemon and in decline. And let's suppose that China eventually rises to the top... do historians still believe a LOT of shite is gonna happen?

Or, do they believe we are 'post - hegemony?'
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 11:56 am to
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And let's suppose that China eventually rises to the top


How many thousands of years has China had to rise to the top?

How would a Communist country rise to the top?
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112467 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:02 pm to
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How many thousands of years has China had to rise to the top?

Good point. But how many thousands of years did America have to rise to the top? It took Europeans a short time to take over from a bunch of stupid Injuns. My apologies to any of our Injun posters.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:10 pm to
With the advent of nuclear weapons, I don't know if we'll ever see nuclear states engaged in open warfare with one another.

There may be proxy wars, but that's kinda the same thing as what you see when there is a hegemonic power.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21566 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:57 pm to
S. Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Thailand, Burma, Australia, N. Zealand, and the Philippines should all begin developing nuclear weapon, nuke sub, and nuke missile programs.
Posted by Bayou Sam
Istanbul
Member since Aug 2009
5921 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:11 pm to
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Ever since, let's say, The Roman Empire there has always been a dominant global culture.


I don't think this is true. I mean, can anyone plausibly claim that the Roman Empire had hegemony over the globe?

There are usually hegemons in particular regions (and thus a plurality of hegemons across the globe), but it is relatively new to have one, global hegemon. I'm not sure it's ever been done on the scale that the USA achieved after the Cold War, even with the British empire.

And given the brevity of our recent hegemony, it probably isn't the natural order of things.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67079 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

A long time ago I did research on Hegemonic shifts. Short explanation... Ever since, let's say, The Roman Empire there has always been a dominant global culture.

That culture goes into decline and is replaced by another Hegemon. During periods of domination there is general peace, although there are always conflicts. During periods of transition there is war, chaos, anxst, gnashing of toofus, etc.

So, since the US is the Hegemon and in decline. And let's suppose that China eventually rises to the top... do historians still believe a LOT of shite is gonna happen?

Or, do they believe we are 'post - hegemony?'


There's one problem with this. Prior to World War II, there was always 2 hedgemonies that were completely seperate from one-another. The Pacific Ocean was never ruled or even touched by any Western hedgemonies until the 17th century.
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