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Soccer Fans: Please Be More Welcoming to New Fans.

Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:17 am
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:17 am
I have recently, in the past few years, decided to start learning about the sport. My attempts at watching it cold turkey a couple of years ago were met with extreme confusion. So I've attempted to learn the rules, understand how the game is played, and it has increased my enjoyment of the sport tenfold. I don't know everything, and I still have a lot of questions, but what I've discovered is a game where there are a ton of strategic positioning, defenses, and ebb and flow to set up opportunities for scoring. It can be very exciting, especially for a new fan.

So a word of advice to long time soccer fans: When a new soccer fan, or someone gaining interest because of the World Cup, comes along and gets excited about it, don't be an a-hole about it. If they have questions on how the game works, answer them. Encourage their understanding. I've seen for years soccer fans bitch about the lack of exposure of the sport in America, and when it finally starts to get there, they turn around and act all smug because people are excited about it. My Facebook news feed is littered with "where were all you people when we were excited about soccer years ago?" posts. I was sitting at the bar in Chilis the other day at lunch conversing with another guy about the game on when we were told by another gentlemen very condescendingly "I bet you two have never seen a match before today."

Just saying, folks.
This post was edited on 6/23/14 at 9:21 am
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70991 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:18 am to
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Why are Soccer Fans such jerks?



Starting a thread with that title on a soccer-specific board is pretty jerkish.
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:19 am to
I think it's a mixture of having to put up with the same old redneck jokes time and time again and also dealing with the same questions every four years.

US soccer fans are very guarded.

I also think that there are some (just as in everything else) that think they're superior because they watch the EPL on a regular basis. They are sort of hipsters of US sports.

Who cares though. Just enjoy the game.
This post was edited on 6/23/14 at 9:22 am
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:20 am to
I'm sorry this happened to you.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29395 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:20 am to
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Starting a thread with that title on a soccer-specific board is pretty jerkish.


You're right. Title changed.
Posted by Nimbus2000
Member since Jun 2013
1250 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:21 am to
Newb questions.... are actually ok. just don't ask them while I'm glued to the TV watching the USA. Wait till we're done and I'll be glad to explain offsides, stoppage time, why Cruyff is better than Pele, the MLS, Relegation and Promotion, CONCACAF and why Alexi Lalas is a tool.
This post was edited on 6/23/14 at 9:22 am
Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:21 am to
I agree with you.

But we also live in the biggest bullshitter country in the world.

Dude watches one game and becomes an expert.

Some dude I work with was telling me how much we were going to miss Altidore's presence in the midfield like he was a damn expert. I was too embarassed to say anything.
This post was edited on 6/23/14 at 9:22 am
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38378 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:22 am to
He makes an excellent point. The hypocrisy of some life longers is mind numbing. Bitch because soccer isn't mainstream and climb on the high horse to look down on the peasants when they're attempting to push it to the forefront.

The only way the sport is going to grow in America is for new fans to take interest. Why make that an unpleasant experience? It's like people want a pat on the back for being life long soccer fans.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:24 am to
It is a problem.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:25 am to
Part of the issue is these new fans talk like they have any idea what they're talking about. I'm listening to too coworkers right now talk about how that CR pass should have been super easy to clear, and how there has been little scoring this year.

ETA: My issue with them is they try to tell me that I don't know what I'm seeing. Not that they are watching and talking.
This post was edited on 6/23/14 at 9:26 am
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70991 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:26 am to
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He makes an excellent point. The hypocrisy of some life longers is mind numbing. Bitch because soccer isn't mainstream and climb on the high horse to look down on the peasants when they're attempting to push it to the forefront.



Go make a random soccer post on the MSB or OT and see how many "gay", "not a sport", "grass fairy", etc. posts you get on the spot. That's why soccer fans are guarded, they aren't accepted.

There has been little confrontation on this board when a new fan came in and legitimately had a question. All of the e-fighting has been when people came on here and post something to clearly troll.
Posted by rdw1690
Member since Mar 2010
6469 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:26 am to
It's fine to ask questions and get interested but when people come in and say things like Bradley sucks and we try to tell said person that Bradley does indeed not suck and they fight us on the issue then I'm not just gonna let it go cause someone is new to the game.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:26 am to
I'm plenty nice to new fans. I'm not going to suck someone's dick who keeps coming on here with stupid arse suggestions to change the game. Herp derp make the goal bigger. Herp derp get rid of offside. frick you, learn the rules.
Posted by Nimbus2000
Member since Jun 2013
1250 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:27 am to
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grass fairy

haven't heard that one before actually
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:28 am to
Honestly, so what? At least they are discussing it! If they're new to the sport, they are obviously not going to have amazing insight. Should they just shut up and say nothing? I'd rather them talk about it than not at all.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29395 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:33 am to
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Herp derp get rid of offside.

This was a hard concept for me to grasp, but once I did, it made total sense.

Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24599 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:35 am to
Because for every person who genuinely wants to know about soccer, theres about 10 that think it's for "grass fairies" and "gay boys". Years and years of being on the defensive makes you naturally defensive.

The questions aren't honestly interrogative. It's almost rhetorical like, "wait you can have a tie"? Or, "why isn't there video evidence" and for god sakes.... the diving (simulation) issue.

We know it's a problem.

People need to be more polite when asking about a new sport.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25284 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:40 am to
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I think it's a mixture of having to put up with the same old redneck jokes time and time again and also dealing with the same questions every four years.

US soccer fans are very guarded


this
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43859 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:46 am to
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This was a hard concept for me to grasp, but once I did, it made total sense.


Yeah offsides is essential to the sport and anyone who suggests that it be removed has no business even watching th game.

Perfect example, when I was a kid (8 or so) we didn't have offsides yet because the fields were so small. There was one team who's coach would have one of their players stand by our goal for the entire game and they would just try to kick the ball up to that player. Imagine something like that happening in the pros or even high school.
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:48 am to
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Perfect example, when I was a kid (8 or so) we didn't have offsides yet because the fields were so small. There was one team who's coach would have one of their players stand by our goal for the entire game and they would just try to kick the ball up to that player. Imagine something like that happening in the pros or even high school.


it's the exact same reasoning why there is offsides in football.

It's similar to having a linebacker stand next to the quarterback before the snap.
This post was edited on 6/23/14 at 9:49 am
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