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Seattle Times Bans Use of the Word 'Redskins

Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:15 pm
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:15 pm
And thus, here’s Seattle Times sports editor Don Shelton, explaining Wednesday why that paper will no longer use the word Redskins, not to refer to the Washington Redskins and not to refer to Washington state’s Wellpinit High, a school district that is 67 percent Native American and that also uses the nickname Redskins.

The most controversial name in sports won’t appear again in The Seattle Times’ print edition or on the seattletimes.com home pages as long as I am sports editor.

It’s time to ban the use of “Redskins,” the absurd, offensive and outdated name of the NFL team in Washington, D.C.

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Posted by Breadstick Gun
Colorado Springs, CO
Member since Apr 2009
10165 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:18 pm to
Hippies gonna hippie
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11366 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

It’s time to ban the use of “Redskins,” the absurd, offensive and outdated name of the NFL team in Washington, D.C.

Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
8725 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:19 pm to
Redskins.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:19 pm to
Do people get bored if they don't find something to find offensive or some social issue to hop on the bandwagon of? I mean wow.
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
20685 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

and not to refer to Washington state’s Wellpinit High, a school district that is 67 percent Native American and that also uses the nickname Redskins.


Interesting.

Posted by Gator5220
Member since Aug 2010
3131 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:20 pm to
#NationInDecline
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27304 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:20 pm to
I'm offended by the name "Seattle". Seattle is named after a Native American named "Chief Seattle" who attacked other tribes and captured who he could and used them as slaves.
Posted by LSUbacchus
Portland, Oregon
Member since Jul 2012
1662 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:22 pm to
Red. Skin. Two innocent words but put them together and everyone loses their minds.
Posted by SDwhodat
Member since Apr 2007
2546 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:29 pm to
Redskins
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94846 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:29 pm to
Talk about pathetic.

"Last season, the Seahawks beat the Bears, Saints, Dolphins, and that team from DC as part of their win streak on the way to the Super Bowl.
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
16970 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:30 pm to
OK- now read this article on the "true" history/etymology of the word "Redskin" from Slate and let me know what you think.

Perhaps I should have started a different thread for this one.

LINK
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94368 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:31 pm to
They're so edgy! Hipsters FTW!
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:32 pm to
Change the name to the Washington Supersonics.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:32 pm to
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Red. Skin. Two innocent words but put them together and everyone loses their minds.
Nowhere more than on this very site.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:33 pm to
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The Times joins other publications and writers that have stopped using (or severely limited use of ) the word, including the Kansas City Star, the Portland Oregonian, the Orange County Register, the San Francisco Chronicle, the Salt Lake Tribune, Washington City Paper, DCist, Slate, Mother Jones, The New Republic, Peter King, and sportswriters in Buffalo and Philadelphia.


Oh look Seattle stealing ideas from other cities again
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:36 pm to
This is the best way to force the name change in my utopia. Privately-owned papers refusing to use a racial slur? Totally fair. It's free speech defeating free speech.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84609 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:45 pm to
Thanks for the link. A couple interesting points were made for sure...


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Redskin, he learned, had not emerged first in English or any European language. The English term, in fact, derived from Native American phrases involving the color red in combination with terms for flesh, skin, and man. These phrases were part of a racial vocabulary that Indians often used to designate themselves in opposition to others whom they (like the Europeans) called black, white, and so on.


But the language into which those terms for Indians were first translated was French. The tribes among whom the proto forms of redskin first appeared lived in the area of the upper Mississippi River called Illinois country. Their extensive contact with French-speaking colonists, before the French pulled out of North America, led to these phrases being translated, in the 1760s, more or less literally as peau-rouge and only then into English as redskin. It bears mentioning that many such translators were mixed-blood Indians.



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Of course, the names of many peoples who have been at war have been used with an intention to demonize or denigrate. That we can find Germans spoken of with malice during World War II, though, does not make German slang or offensive. But the informal usage of redskin seems to have made it especially inviting to the creators of frontier tales.
Posted by BeYou
DFW
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:49 pm to
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
16970 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

Thanks for the link. A couple interesting points were made for sure...


Agreed!

The Slate article is great.

It really digs down deep into the history/etymology of "Redskin".

At the end of the day, what really matters? The facts? Or how people perceive things to be???
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