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Lerner hard drive recycled!
Posted on 6/19/14 at 6:26 am
Posted on 6/19/14 at 6:26 am
Posted on 6/19/14 at 6:29 am to 756
quote:
This should confirm that idiots, with criminal intent, are running the country
Juiced it up a little.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 6:33 am to 756
Like it or not, apparently that is the protocol...
Having said that, this situation is absolutely out of control. I'm not arguing who is pulling the strings because that just ends up in a giant circle jerk, but someone is doing their best to hide something. There is just too much of a convenience factor going on here.
There are multiple ways to get these emails and they are claiming we've had "Failures" on multiple levels
1) The agents computers (If working)
2) The agents hard drives
3) The IRS server
4) WH/DOJ Servers
Even though you will likely NEVER get any of the communication between the 7 people since they were all IRS and that is the agency who "lost" all of the data , you can start subpoenaing ALL emails between anyone with a WH/DOJ email address and an IRS address. It would be on those other servers too.
Having said that, this situation is absolutely out of control. I'm not arguing who is pulling the strings because that just ends up in a giant circle jerk, but someone is doing their best to hide something. There is just too much of a convenience factor going on here.
There are multiple ways to get these emails and they are claiming we've had "Failures" on multiple levels
1) The agents computers (If working)
2) The agents hard drives
3) The IRS server
4) WH/DOJ Servers
Even though you will likely NEVER get any of the communication between the 7 people since they were all IRS and that is the agency who "lost" all of the data , you can start subpoenaing ALL emails between anyone with a WH/DOJ email address and an IRS address. It would be on those other servers too.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 6:36 am to 756
Posted on 6/19/14 at 6:38 am to son of arlo
also, a cynic would think "I wonder if this is all a smokeshow and delay for someone to get to the other servers and begin purging the data"
Delay delay delay
Delay delay delay
Posted on 6/19/14 at 7:21 am to son of arlo
When the seven IRS employees who suffered computer crashes got new computers how many email messages did they send out to others informing them that their computers crashed, and they lost some work product? Surely some of them had files that were not saved on any IRS network, when each of the seven computers crashed, and notified others of the inconvenience caused by the computer failures. Can the IRS produce those emails?
Posted on 6/19/14 at 7:31 am to Poodlebrain
"There you go again"(Ronald Regan)
Poodle using logic and common sense
This approach is not allowed in the discussion at hand
Poodle using logic and common sense
This approach is not allowed in the discussion at hand
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 7:38 am
Posted on 6/19/14 at 7:39 am to 756
quote:OK. So they should be able to check the sequence numbers and determine what if anything is missing.
The IRS was able to recover 24,000 Lerner emails from 2009 to 2011 because Lerner had copied in other IRS employees. The agency said it pieced together the emails from the computers of 83 other IRS employees.
It is standard IT protocol to destroy used hard drives. You would get in trouble if you didn't.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 7:46 am to son of arlo
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Six more computers crashed.
Nothing to see here. Move along.
Rose Mary Woods - move over. You were a piker.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 7:56 am to Poodlebrain
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When the seven IRS employees who suffered computer crashes got new computers how many email messages did they send out to others informing them that their computers crashed, and they lost some work product? Surely some of them had files that were not saved on any IRS network, when each of the seven computers crashed, and notified others of the inconvenience caused by the computer failures. Can the IRS produce those emails?
Well, here's the emails that were sent by Lois Lerner about the lost data in 2011...
LINK
Posted on 6/19/14 at 8:26 am to Truckasaurus
So can i use this SAME excuse if i get audited?
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:09 am to Truckasaurus
quote:That is one of seven computer crashes accounted for. It shouldn't be too difficult to substantiate the other six computer crashes seeing as how easy it was to substantiate the crash of Lerner's computer.
Well, here's the emails that were sent by Lois Lerner about the lost data in 2011...
These facts may be exculpatory, but they do not change the facts that the IRS delayed providing this information to Congress for over a year, or the fact that IRS personnel testified that all of the requested emails would be provided to Congress. Either the people running the IRS have not taken Congress' inquiries seriously, they were grossly incompetent or they misled Congress. None of the alternatives should be acceptable to Americans who expect their government to function reasonably, and the President's lack of concern does not inspire confidence.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:15 am to Truckasaurus
quote:
LINK
“Sometimes stuff just happens.”
Rose Mary Woods
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 10:26 am
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:35 am to 756
Anyone else see the irony in the IRS hiding records to relieve them of their responsibility?
Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:17 am to member12
The emails are still on a server, its irrelevant the other computer are broken, someone went in to the server and manually deleted all the email. The IRS is just feeding congress a plate of shite.
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 11:18 am
Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:21 am to ninthward
quote:
The emails are still on a server, its irrelevant the other computer are broken, someone went in to the server and manually deleted all the email. The IRS is just feeding congress a plate of shite.
Not what the IT experts are saying...
Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:23 am to ninthward
Yes. I still have email from 15 years ago in three accounts. This "hard drive crash" excuse is bullshite.
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