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Question for conservatives on this board who grew up poor with gov't help
Posted on 6/13/14 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 6/13/14 at 6:51 pm
A lot of folks on this board (especially the older ones) have told us that they grew up poor and in poverty, on certain government programs, but that their parents worked hard, etc. When you guys judge the people on assistance now, why are they "different" than your family was? Also, do you guys assume that you could have survived without the help of government, to try to hide the "shame" of being a recipient of tax payer dollars as a child?
I'm just interesting in the thought process. If you grew up poor with hard working parents who used some state help, how do you reconcile those memories with your current distrust of the great society? What is the thought process there?
I'm just interesting in the thought process. If you grew up poor with hard working parents who used some state help, how do you reconcile those memories with your current distrust of the great society? What is the thought process there?
Posted on 6/13/14 at 7:01 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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If you grew up poor with hard working parents who used some state help
I grew up poor, with absentee parents, and ZERO state help. So I will say whatever the frick I want about people on gubment assistance now.
I want to process those poors into food for other poors. Don't like it, kiss my dick*.
*Don't get excited Toddy
Posted on 6/13/14 at 7:04 pm to Vols&Shaft83
There are reasons why society is the way it is
A thinker would focus on that why.
This thread isn't an exercise in discovering the why.
A thinker would focus on that why.
This thread isn't an exercise in discovering the why.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 7:04 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
We had NO state help. So I don't know how to answer your question.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 7:05 pm to Zach
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We had NO state help
Who's we? Your family?
Posted on 6/13/14 at 7:07 pm to Zach
Why'd you say you don't know how to answer the question?
Obviously the question doesn't apply to you, so there should be nothing puzzling about how to answer it.
Obviously the question doesn't apply to you, so there should be nothing puzzling about how to answer it.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 7:08 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I support government assistance for those in need.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 7:09 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:I would think they'd view it much as affirmative action. A safety net granting an opportunity.
they grew up poor and in poverty, on certain government programs, but that their parents worked hard, etc. When you guys judge the people on assistance now
quote:Different levels of poverty, then and now. Different levels of assistance programs, then and now.
how do you reconcile those memories with your current distrust of the great society?
Posted on 6/13/14 at 7:10 pm to JazzyJeff
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I support government assistance for those in need.
And when the needy multiply and become needier, what then captain dipshit?
Posted on 6/13/14 at 7:11 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Obviously the question doesn't apply to you, so there should be nothing puzzling about how to answer it.
I read Vols and Shaft 83. I guess he should not have posted an answer. Why didn't you bitch at him?
This post was edited on 6/13/14 at 7:13 pm
Posted on 6/13/14 at 7:14 pm to Zach
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I read Vols and Shaft 83. I guess he should not have posted an answer. Why didn't you bitch at him?
He don't want none of this
Posted on 6/13/14 at 7:14 pm to JazzyJeff
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I support government assistance for those in need.
This, but it should be as restrictive as can be. It also should be so restrictive and shameful, that you want to get off ASAP.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 7:15 pm to Vols&Shaft83
quote:The government should ALWAYS have a safety net in place to assist those in need. And of course, try and address the causes of poverty as well.
And when the needy multiply and become needier, what then captain dipshit?
Posted on 6/13/14 at 7:15 pm to Vols&Shaft83
quote:
I grew up poor, with absentee parents, and ZERO state help.
bullshite. Thanks for playing.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 7:17 pm to CamdenTiger
quote:Why shameful? I don't get that part. I would venture a guess and say that most of the poor would rather not be poor and be able to provide for themselves without any assistance at all.
This, but it should be as restrictive as can be. It also should be so restrictive and shameful, that you want to get off ASAP.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 7:19 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I don't know if you would call is poor growing up, but my dad died when I was ten and we received his SS check until I graduated HS. I don't think it is hypocritically to have received a gubment check and be against government programs. My dad did pay his SS taxes for 30 years before he died, why shouldn't his kids have got the check?
Posted on 6/13/14 at 7:21 pm to Navytiger74
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bullshite. Thanks for playing.
Not bullshite, but hey if it makes it easier for you to make an argument by calling me a liar, go for it.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 7:23 pm to JazzyJeff
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Why shameful? I don't get that part. I would venture a guess and say that most of the poor would rather not be poor and be able to provide for themselves without any assistance at all.
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JazzyJeff
Go to St. Joe, Newellton, Tallualah, LP, then come back and talk. All the ppl (nonseniors and legit disabled) both black and white don't want off the system. They have gotten used to being poor and have realized that you can live a damn comfortable life sucking on the system and bouncing from min wage job to min wage job.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 7:24 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Not bullshite, but hey if it makes it easier for you to make an argument by calling me a liar, go for it.
Arguing that anyone who grew up dirt poor got some state assistance doesn't require much help. It's naturally easy.
This post was edited on 6/13/14 at 7:29 pm
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