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Volcanos responsible for glacier ice melt......not global warming

Posted on 6/13/14 at 7:38 am
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 7:38 am
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Researchers from the UTA’s Institute for Geophysics found that the Thwaites Glacier in western Antarctica is being eroded by the ocean as well as geothermal heat from magma and subaerial volcanoes. Thwaites is considered a key glacier for understanding future sea level rise.

“Geothermal flux is one of the most dynamically critical ice sheet boundary conditions but is extremely difficult to constrain at the scale required to understand and predict the behavior of rapidly changing glaciers,” UTA researchers wrote in their study, which was published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

The geothermal heat under the glaciers is likely a key factor in why the ice sheet is currently collapsing. Before this study, it was assumed that heat flow under the glacier was evenly distributed throughout, but UTA’s study shows this is not the case. Heat levels under the glacier are uneven, with some areas being much hotter than others.

“The combination of variable subglacial geothermal heat flow and the interacting subglacial water system could threaten the stability of Thwaites Glacier in ways that we never before imagined,” lead researcher David Schroeder said in a press release.
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Previous studies have also shown that the collapse of the continent’s western ice sheet is nothing new. The British Antarctic Survey (BAS) has released two major studies in the last year showing that the thinning south pole ice is nothing new.

A BAS study from February found that Antarctica’s Pine Island glacier thinned just as fast 8,000 years ago as it has in recent times — it also was able to reverse the collapse.

Another BAS study from last year says western Antarctic thinning is within the “natural range of climate variability” of the last 300 years.


Is this a fabricated study done for financial and political reasons or is this just a scientific study explaining the ice melts are not man related?





Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43556 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 7:43 am to
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Is this a fabricated study done for financial and political reasons or is this just a scientific study explaining the ice melts are not man related?





obviously since al gore didnt invent it.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 7:45 am to
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
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Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 7:59 am to
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it was assumed that heat flow under the glacier was evenly distributed throughout,


This is a outstanding example of why being skeptical is not a sin!
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 8:03 am to
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This is a outstanding example of why being skeptical is not a sin!
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45810 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 8:05 am to
When we use common sense science which seems more logical? A 2 degree rise in temperatures over 70 years is causing huge glaciers to melt or something else, like volcanoes under the ice, are responsible...

Bueller, Bueller...
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 8:34 am to
Uh oh, dante... TT9 made a face at you!
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64355 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 8:36 am to
His technical prowess on the subject of global warming is pretty impressive.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 8:43 am to
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His technical prowess on the subject of global warming is pretty impressive.

MY technical prowess on the subject is NOT impressive at all, but I do tend to question many of the studies on global warming "blaming" man. I just think there are to many unknown/every changing variables which the studies cannot account for or make assumptions about instead.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26640 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 8:45 am to
Better get to Daily Kos quickly, so you can learn how what to say to deflect attention away from this report that dares to suggest something other than humans are melting the glaciers in Antarctica.

Awwww, hell. I'm a nice guy, so here are a few starters for you:

George W. Bush wouldn't sign on to Kyoto.
The GOP is obstructionist.
The Koch brothers are rich.
Big Oil somehow funneled money to UTA for this study.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118819 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 8:48 am to
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Geothermal flux is one of the most dynamically critical ice sheet boundary conditions but is extremely difficult to constrain at the scale required to understand and predict the behavior of rapidly changing glaciers,


Finally some honesty from the science community.


This guy better be prepared to be demonized by the carbon credit activist.
Posted by UPT
NOLA
Member since May 2009
5508 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 8:56 am to
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Finally what I want to hear from the science community.


Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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Posted by MMauler
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Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:21 am to
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Nice rebuttal.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58762 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:23 am to
Man-made global warming caused the volcanoes. Duh.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:24 am to
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TT9


Why that response? I literally don't get it.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54210 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:36 am to
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I literally don't get it.


Scientists who report findings that are contradictory to TT's scientists that report findings agreeable to TT's opinion should not be taken seriously?
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:37 am to
Why is it that studies suggesting that man is not responsible for the glaciers melting gets very play from the left on this board, but they are the first to jump on board for any scientific study that blames man.
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