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Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:54 am
Posted by rednecksouthpaw
Denham Springs
Member since Jun 2006
129 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:54 am
Switching companies and I am going to take my 401k and roll it over to an IRA. Roughly 200k. What are some funds and or stocks that y'all recommend.
Posted by kennypowers816
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2010
2443 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 10:10 am to
How many years are you from retirement? How aggressive or conservative do you need to be right now?

I personally like vanguard funds, but that's probably just the simpleton investor answer.
Posted by rednecksouthpaw
Denham Springs
Member since Jun 2006
129 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 10:19 am to
32 now and probably looking to retire around 55-60. I figured I would hear Vanguard funds.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:51 am to
quote:

I figured I would hear Vanguard funds.


You will.
Posted by roguetiger15
Member since Jan 2013
16151 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:11 pm to
With over 200k I would say go to a couple advisors and see what they say. May come up with ideas you haven't thought about
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34869 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

With over 200k I would say go to a couple advisors and see what they say. May come up with ideas you haven't thought about



Yea, I wouldn't trust my $200K to the random opinion of the MB

At least not solely.
Posted by kennypowers816
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2010
2443 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

Yea, I wouldn't trust my $200K to the random opinion of the MB

At least not solely.


So what's your threshold for finding a financial advisor?

No offense at all the the OP (he's 32 and seemingly doing very well), but I personally dont know if 200k is enough for me to want find a financial advisor. But I really am curious, what is the "threshold"?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34869 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

No offense at all the the OP (he's 32 and seemingly doing very well), but I personally dont know if 200k is enough for me to want find a financial advisor. But I really am curious, what is the "threshold"?


I don't think there is a threshold. I think everyone should have an adviser they use, even if he just manages your insurance. Now, whether or not that is fee based or not is a different story.
Posted by roguetiger15
Member since Jan 2013
16151 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 2:19 pm to
Fee based advisors will charge around 1.25 and 1.5 percent for 200k in assets. That fee will determine to you personally if it's worth it. As a FA myself I would say just to go to a couple and see what they say. No FA will charge you for a second opinion so it's a win win. Of course right now times are good so it's harder to justify using one but what I try to reiterate to clients and prospects is that where we show our value the most is setting portfolios up moving forward and not just for now. For instance in equities you want to be a little more invested in mid cap value funds/companies bc moving forward that's where you'll most likely see better returns. Historically those companies lead the way out of a recession. Another example is where to position yourself for when interest rates start rising.

Another thing I'll say is if you are a buy and hold index fund guy, having an advisor may not be AS important and valuable to you but I would still consult with a few just for added knowledge going forward. Good luck
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 2:24 pm
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4579 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 2:23 pm to
I am also an FA and I second ^. Good info rouge
Posted by roguetiger15
Member since Jan 2013
16151 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 2:33 pm to
Now what's your address so I can send you an invoice
Posted by rednecksouthpaw
Denham Springs
Member since Jun 2006
129 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 2:44 pm to
Thx for the info. Better make that IRA grow before you get my address.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34869 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 2:54 pm to
Very well said.
Posted by kennypowers816
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2010
2443 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 3:05 pm to
Slight spinoff, but can you give me some more info on the FA route?

quote:

charge around 1.25 and 1.5 percent for 200k in assets


Assets? Is that total assets, net assets, current brokerage account balances?

For example - let's assume:
100k in retirement account(s)
75k in brokerage account
75k equity in primary residence (300k home)
75k equity in rental property (150k property)

What are you calculating that 1.25-1.5% on?

Also, this may be dumb, but how often is this fee charged? Per consultation? Annually? One-time?



Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4579 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 3:10 pm to
Each firm typically has a fee schedule of it's own but 1.25%-1.5% is a pretty typical rule of thumb. Those assets would be based on how much you have in house with that firm. I.E. you have 250k with the firm and 200k equity in home, the equity in the home don't count!

Each firm charges the fee differently, mine charges monthly and in arrears. Some charge quarterly and forward.
Posted by roguetiger15
Member since Jan 2013
16151 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 3:13 pm to
It's an annual fee based on assets under the advisors management, that's held in a fee based account. So basically the dollar amount in all accounts held under that advisors or advisory team's number

Remember you can also have your assets in a commission based account as well if you want. Most clients and FA's are going to the fee based model

One good thing is the amount paid in fees can be in turn deducted on your taxes if it is not a retirement account.

We debit the account quarterly
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 3:14 pm
Posted by kennypowers816
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2010
2443 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 3:19 pm to
Thanks for the good info
Posted by iknowmorethanyou
Paydirt
Member since Jul 2007
6545 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 4:24 pm to
Don't get married. If you already are, better make sure ya ole lady doesn't get wind of the 200K...you're welcome.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:06 pm to
I set my own fee.
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