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Forbes: Irish nun story about babies in septic tank was a hoax
Posted on 6/11/14 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 6/11/14 at 6:19 pm
Apology time
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Few of us are inclined to look a gift horse in the mouth, and that applies in spades to journalists running with a sensational news story. But even by normal media standards, recent reports about the bones of 796 babies being found in the septic tank of an Irish orphanage betray a degree of cynicism and irresponsibility rarely surpassed by allegedly reputable news organizations.
Although the media attributed the “dumped in a septic tank” allegation to Catherine Corless, a local amateur historian, she denies making it. Her attempt to correct the record was reported by the Irish Times newspaper on Saturday (see here) but has been almost entirely ignored by the same global media that so gleefully recycled the original suggestion. That suggestion, which seems to have first surfaced in the Mail on Sunday, a London-based newspaper, reflected appallingly on the Sisters of Bon Secours, the order of Catholic nuns at the center of the scandal.
Today the Irish Times has published a reader’s letter that has further undercut the story. Finbar McCormick, a professor of geography at Queen’s University Belfast, sharply admonished the media for describing the children’s last resting place as a septic tank. He added: “The structure as described is much more likely to be a shaft burial vault, a common method of burial used in the recent past and still used today in many part of Europe.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 6:25 pm to TN Bhoy
MSM decides if it is a hoax or not.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 6:48 pm to TN Bhoy
And 10% of the people who heard the original story will hear that it was a hoax.
Just the world we live in
Just the world we live in
Posted on 6/11/14 at 6:51 pm to TN Bhoy
Dang.
Pretty ironic that the very first sentence of the OP about this story was:
Pretty ironic that the very first sentence of the OP about this story was:
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I don't know how the catholic church is going survive the increased light on their past as information flows quicker and freely.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 7:01 pm to TN Bhoy
A lot of Catholic badgers saddened.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 7:47 pm to GumboPot
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A lot of Catholic badgers saddened.
Huh? Lol
Posted on 6/11/14 at 7:47 pm to notiger1997
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And 10% of the people who heard the original story will hear that it was a hoax.
Just the world we live in
Also have to wonder how many bigots added 2 and 2 and came up with 5 (ie, concluding that it was a mass grave of babies who were killed rather than stillborn.)
Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:19 pm to Bestbank Tiger
Now one is a bigot for 'thinking' about what was reported and true with the exception of the actual pit hole they were buried in.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:22 pm to themunch
When I read the first story I didn't believe it. It sounded like complete bullshite. Only people who want to believe that the Catholic Church is evil would actually believe that shite.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:34 pm to TN Bhoy
Posted on 6/12/14 at 8:09 am to Choctaw
Is I B Freeman gonna even acknowledge the hoax?
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 9:31 am
Posted on 6/12/14 at 8:12 am to TN Bhoy
I didn't believe it when I read it the first time.
You don't have to like the Catholic church to see through this kind of thing in the modern age.
You don't have to like the Catholic church to see through this kind of thing in the modern age.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 8:23 am to Choctaw
I P Freely's absence in that thread (and this one) is conspicuous. I guess he's out picketing Celtic.
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 8:25 am
Posted on 6/12/14 at 8:33 am to Godfather1
Burial vault, septic tank, whatever it was there are still 796 dead babies. I have no apologies.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 8:44 am to beebefootballfan
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Burial vault, septic tank, whatever it was there are still 796 dead babies.
There's probably thousands of dead babies in the graveyards around here. Are we going to make up a story about them too?
Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:03 am to TN Bhoy
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There is a moral here for those who are increasingly bewildered by the modern world: the global media are becoming less and less accountable. Sometimes the truth eventually does come out, or at least some of us have sufficient knowledge to suspect the facts are misstated.
But very often readers do not have the experience and worldly wisdom to see through the nonsense, particularly in interpreting reported developments in nations whose cultures diverge sharply from those of the West
Boom.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:08 am to Eighteen
The most important thing to take from this whole mess of a story, the true message that speaks at a universal truth, is that there's a dude named "Finbar" out there.
The world is full of unsolved mysteries...
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Finbar McCormick, a professor of geography at Queen’s University Belfast
The world is full of unsolved mysteries...
Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:18 am to TygerTyger
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The most important thing to take from this whole mess of a story, the true message that speaks at a universal truth, is that there's a dude named "Finbar" out there.
The world is full of unsolved mysteries...
You racist, brah?
Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:23 am to TN Bhoy
No I responded in the original thread and pointed out that the death of the babies was not a hoax. You should look at those answers.
I know it makes you feel more smug to attack me rather than to acknowledge that 800 babies died of neglect or were stillborn in the care of nuns that either lacked the resources of the Church to care for them or simply didn't know what they were doing.
I know it makes you feel more smug to attack me rather than to acknowledge that 800 babies died of neglect or were stillborn in the care of nuns that either lacked the resources of the Church to care for them or simply didn't know what they were doing.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:32 am to I B Freeman
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than to acknowledge that 800 babies died of neglect or were stillborn in the care of nuns
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Because they were so desperately underfunded, Irish orphanages were disgracefully overcrowded, which meant that when one baby caught an infection, they all caught it. Not the least of the hazards was tuberculosis, a then incurable disease that spread like wildfire in overcrowded conditions.
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 9:33 am
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