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Forbes: Irish nun story about babies in septic tank was a hoax

Posted on 6/11/14 at 6:19 pm
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 6:19 pm
Apology time
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Few of us are inclined to look a gift horse in the mouth, and that applies in spades to journalists running with a sensational news story. But even by normal media standards, recent reports about the bones of 796 babies being found in the septic tank of an Irish orphanage betray a degree of cynicism and irresponsibility rarely surpassed by allegedly reputable news organizations.

Although the media attributed the “dumped in a septic tank” allegation to Catherine Corless, a local amateur historian, she denies making it. Her attempt to correct the record was reported by the Irish Times newspaper on Saturday (see here) but has been almost entirely ignored by the same global media that so gleefully recycled the original suggestion. That suggestion, which seems to have first surfaced in the Mail on Sunday, a London-based newspaper, reflected appallingly on the Sisters of Bon Secours, the order of Catholic nuns at the center of the scandal.

Today the Irish Times has published a reader’s letter that has further undercut the story. Finbar McCormick, a professor of geography at Queen’s University Belfast, sharply admonished the media for describing the children’s last resting place as a septic tank. He added: “The structure as described is much more likely to be a shaft burial vault, a common method of burial used in the recent past and still used today in many part of Europe.
Posted by beulahland
Little D'arbonne
Member since Jan 2013
3577 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 6:25 pm to
MSM decides if it is a hoax or not.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58123 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 6:48 pm to
And 10% of the people who heard the original story will hear that it was a hoax.
Just the world we live in
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9044 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 6:51 pm to
Dang.

Pretty ironic that the very first sentence of the OP about this story was:

quote:

I don't know how the catholic church is going survive the increased light on their past as information flows quicker and freely.


Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118760 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 7:01 pm to
A lot of Catholic badgers saddened.
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 7:47 pm to
quote:

A lot of Catholic badgers saddened.


Huh? Lol
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71045 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 7:47 pm to
quote:

And 10% of the people who heard the original story will hear that it was a hoax.
Just the world we live in


Also have to wonder how many bigots added 2 and 2 and came up with 5 (ie, concluding that it was a mass grave of babies who were killed rather than stillborn.)
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64655 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:19 pm to
Now one is a bigot for 'thinking' about what was reported and true with the exception of the actual pit hole they were buried in.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:22 pm to
When I read the first story I didn't believe it. It sounded like complete bullshite. Only people who want to believe that the Catholic Church is evil would actually believe that shite.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:34 pm to
lets see if I B Freeman comments in this thread

LINK
Posted by Zephyrius
Wharton, La.
Member since Dec 2004
7938 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 8:09 am to
Is I B Freeman gonna even acknowledge the hoax?
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 9:31 am
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10411 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 8:12 am to
I didn't believe it when I read it the first time.

You don't have to like the Catholic church to see through this kind of thing in the modern age.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79663 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 8:23 am to
I P Freely's absence in that thread (and this one) is conspicuous. I guess he's out picketing Celtic.
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 8:25 am
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
19026 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 8:33 am to
Burial vault, septic tank, whatever it was there are still 796 dead babies. I have no apologies.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25342 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 8:44 am to
quote:

Burial vault, septic tank, whatever it was there are still 796 dead babies.


There's probably thousands of dead babies in the graveyards around here. Are we going to make up a story about them too?
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
33877 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:03 am to
quote:

There is a moral here for those who are increasingly bewildered by the modern world: the global media are becoming less and less accountable. Sometimes the truth eventually does come out, or at least some of us have sufficient knowledge to suspect the facts are misstated.

But very often readers do not have the experience and worldly wisdom to see through the nonsense, particularly in interpreting reported developments in nations whose cultures diverge sharply from those of the West


Boom.
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
9199 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:08 am to
The most important thing to take from this whole mess of a story, the true message that speaks at a universal truth, is that there's a dude named "Finbar" out there.

quote:

Finbar McCormick, a professor of geography at Queen’s University Belfast


The world is full of unsolved mysteries...
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:18 am to
quote:

The most important thing to take from this whole mess of a story, the true message that speaks at a universal truth, is that there's a dude named "Finbar" out there.

The world is full of unsolved mysteries...


You racist, brah?
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:23 am to
No I responded in the original thread and pointed out that the death of the babies was not a hoax. You should look at those answers.

I know it makes you feel more smug to attack me rather than to acknowledge that 800 babies died of neglect or were stillborn in the care of nuns that either lacked the resources of the Church to care for them or simply didn't know what they were doing.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:32 am to
quote:

than to acknowledge that 800 babies died of neglect or were stillborn in the care of nuns


quote:

Because they were so desperately underfunded, Irish orphanages were disgracefully overcrowded, which meant that when one baby caught an infection, they all caught it. Not the least of the hazards was tuberculosis, a then incurable disease that spread like wildfire in overcrowded conditions.

This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 9:33 am
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