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Thinking of getting dad a MIG welder for Fathers Day... suggestions?

Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:10 am
Posted by tysonslefthook
Near Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:10 am
OT welders, I've heard my pops talk about wanting a MIG machine several times. He uses my uncles old one all the time and loves it, so I am considering buying him one for Fathers Day. He has an old AC/DC, but he can barely see the puddle now as his eyes are getting bad.

For whatever reason, he has little difficulty in using a MIG. This would mainly be for use around the house when he tinkers. I know very little about them other than the basics of using one. Any suggestions? I know very little about the wire speeds, wire types, and the sizes.

If someone who knows a thing or two about them can point me in the right direction on a good machine that can handle your basic stuff around the house I would be appreciative. I don't want to go break the bank and get one that is far more than he needs, but at the same time, I want to make sure its one that can get the job done.

ETA: Thanks to the admin for assing up my thread title. He doesn't have trouble using a MIG welder, hence I am getting him one for Fathers Day. No worries, I fixed it.
This post was edited on 6/11/14 at 12:37 pm
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:16 am to
A Millermatic 140 is a good little machine and you can get it for about 700 bucks new.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:19 am to
220v or 110v?
Posted by tysonslefthook
Near Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2014
1218 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:22 am to
I don't think he has 220v in his shop, but I could be wrong
Posted by onelochevy
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2011
16534 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:22 am to
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220v or 110v?


This. Gotta know how big of a machine he needs.
Posted by tigerman03
Metairie
Member since Jul 2008
3747 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:23 am to
Get a Miller.
Really easy to use.

Do you know the voltage he has at the house? 110 or 220?
Posted by tysonslefthook
Near Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2014
1218 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:24 am to
quote:

A Millermatic 140 is a good little machine and you can get it for about 700 bucks new


Is it worth paying 700 for the Millermatic instead of the Lincoln 140? This thing will only see light occasional use. Maybe once or twice a month when he has to fix whatever he tears up!
Posted by tysonslefthook
Near Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2014
1218 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:24 am to
quote:

Do you know the voltage he has at the house? 110 or 220?


I think 110 at the shop, I'll have to find out for sure when I go this evening
Posted by TigerFred
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Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:29 am to
Lincoln Handy Mig Portable is a decent little 110 volt machine.

About $300-$350 range.
Posted by ThaTigerDon
You cant see me
Member since Jun 2009
649 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:33 am to
Ive got a miller and a hobart. Both are easy and work great. Hobart is a little cheaper you can get them a Tractor Supply usually cheaper than anywhere else.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:36 am to
Lincoln
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:38 am to
quote:

I don't think he has 220v in his shop, but I could be wrong


Get the biggest(largest number) model from either Hobart(miller's cheaper lineup but good), Miller, or Lincoln that you can afford. Really this is the usual answer for even if you have 220v

This will be a ford vs chevy debate
Posted by tysonslefthook
Near Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2014
1218 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:40 am to
quote:

This will be a ford vs chevy debate


I kind of expected it to turn out like this. His favorite color is blue though, so maybe that will sway me to Miller
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7548 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:49 am to
The Miller is a nice machine (I have a 130 about 10 years old). My Miller uses shielding gas.

I have used a Lincoln 140 at work and it is a good little machine too.

Something to consider also is whether you are going to bear the expense of a shielding gas or just get flux cored wire.

The weld quality with the shielding gas is superior but a bottle and regulator add $100-200 to the package. Then you almost have to get a cart to keep it all together.

If you're price point is under $500 get the Lincoln.

If you can swing up to $1k get the Miller, bottle, regulator & cart.

BTW no matter what you get some consumables are needed (tips, wire, nozzle dip, etc.)

You may want to check some local welding supply houses sometimes they have package deals.

Hope this helps.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:49 am to
I've got a Miller 211. It's great because it can be either 110 or 220. You're looking at $1k, but for Miller quality it is worth it

Air gas is kind of expensive, but will have everything you need to go home and weld that day.

Get an auto-darkening helmet for him too. Mine is a $40 job from Northern Tool and works pretty well. It's no $200 helmet, but it works
This post was edited on 6/11/14 at 8:51 am
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38378 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:51 am to
Lincoln power mig 140 is on a rebate program right now. Pay around 600 and get some free gear (auto darkening hood, jacket, gloves, etc)

Mig welding is easy because you just squeeze a trigger
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7612 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:51 am to
quote:

Get an auto-darkening helmet for him too. Mine is a $40 job from Northern Tool

I have this as well and it's a pretty damned good helmet. I recommend as well.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:52 am to
quote:

I've got a Miller 211. It's great because it can be either 110 or 220. You're looking at $1k, but for Miller quality it is worth it Get an auto-darkening helmet for him too. Mine is a $40 job from Northern Tool and works pretty well. It's no $200 helmet, but it works


If you want 110/220 capability get a Lincoln power
Mig 180C for a few hundred bucks less and it comes with a really nice auto darkening hood. 211 is overkill for tinkering around the house.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 8:53 am to
Only problem I have ever had was welding outside with the sun at my back
Posted by Me Bite
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Member since Oct 2007
7148 posts
Posted on 6/11/14 at 9:06 am to
You can use flux cored wire on any machine that is wired fed. IMO you need to use gas on any wire that you put down. The overall quality will be better when using shielding gas, even with flux cored wire. A 110V machine will only weld 1/4" thick material max, so also keep this in mind.
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