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i7-4700MQ vs A10-5750M processors
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:37 am
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:37 am
Is it worth the $175 difference between these two computers? i7 HP Envy/ AMD A10 HP Envy
The AMD version actually has a better display. Is the i7 that much better?
Software I plan on using: Visual Studio/Illustrator/Photoshop.
The AMD version actually has a better display. Is the i7 that much better?
Software I plan on using: Visual Studio/Illustrator/Photoshop.
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 9:43 am
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:42 am to InVolNerable
bump
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:48 am to InVolNerable
the i7 is a much more powerful processor than the A10 ever thought of being. some benchmarks show twice as powerful in fact. AMDs APU line is really for light gaming and htpc use.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:58 am to InVolNerable
That's actually a difficult decision, especially with the work you're planning to do with it. Are you going to be using those programs often (hours a day)? Is its performance in those particular programs of the utmost importance?
I ask because the CPU performance will be the most important feature, and the 4700MQ's single-threaded performance is 50% better than that A10, and in multi-threaded applications, the 4700MQ would be close to twice as fast as the A10, and just a teeny tiny bit more power efficient.
What the A10 has going for it is the superior integrated graphics, hence the 1080p panel. It's a good option for an entertainment laptop (maybe even for very, very light gaming). It's a difficult choice, because the low-res screen kind of sucks for image-editing work but would give you far superior performance.
If we're talking about heavy editing work as part of your job, neither laptop is all that great of a choice. Does it have to be from Costco? Retail brick-and-mortar store models are often configured so strangely.
I ask because the CPU performance will be the most important feature, and the 4700MQ's single-threaded performance is 50% better than that A10, and in multi-threaded applications, the 4700MQ would be close to twice as fast as the A10, and just a teeny tiny bit more power efficient.
What the A10 has going for it is the superior integrated graphics, hence the 1080p panel. It's a good option for an entertainment laptop (maybe even for very, very light gaming). It's a difficult choice, because the low-res screen kind of sucks for image-editing work but would give you far superior performance.
If we're talking about heavy editing work as part of your job, neither laptop is all that great of a choice. Does it have to be from Costco? Retail brick-and-mortar store models are often configured so strangely.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:25 pm to InVolNerable
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:30 pm to ILikeLSUToo
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jcole4lsu & ILikeLSUToo
Thanks both for the responses.
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Are you going to be using those programs often (hours a day)?
It'll be a personal computer that I use occasionally for work, but I'd still like whichever laptop I choose to be able to handle those programs smoothly. I probably won't finalize work from it, but I'd like to be able to have set up a nice workflow on it when need be.
Any gaming would be Fallout/Fallout 2 as a time killer in the airport; nothing intensive.
Other than that, it'll be used for the typical watch movies, browse internet, Microsoft Office usage, etc.
quote:
Does it have to be from Costco?
Not necessarily. It just seemed after searching Newegg, Amazon, and Costco to be the best bang for the buck.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:34 pm to HubbaBubba
Pretty telling results. Even more of a disparity in those scores than in others I was looking at.
For some context, the CPU Mark score is determined from the following tests:
- Integer Maths Test
- Compression Test
- Prime Number Test
- Encryption Test
- Floating Point Math Test
- Multimedia Instructions
- String Sorting Test
- Physics Test
- Single Core Test
LINK
For some context, the CPU Mark score is determined from the following tests:
- Integer Maths Test
- Compression Test
- Prime Number Test
- Encryption Test
- Floating Point Math Test
- Multimedia Instructions
- String Sorting Test
- Physics Test
- Single Core Test
LINK
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:47 pm to ILikeLSUToo
We're about to build some custom systems for intensive extremely high rez video visualization using dual Xeon E5-2690 CPUs. These things are damned expensive.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:55 pm to InVolNerable
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It just seemed after searching Newegg, Amazon, and Costco to be the best bang for the buck.
Here are a few options that can give you the best of both of those HPs:
Lenovo IdeaPad Z710 for $969: LINK
You'd likely pay sales tax at costco, so this laptop would work out to be cheaper than the HP. 1080P, 4700MQ, dedicated graphics card (GT 745M), a tiny SSD likely to use a cache and Intel RST, and a Blu-Ray burner thrown in for whatever reason.
If you aren't focused on 16GB of RAM (which might be overkill unless you can give me a technical explanation or an observed and quantified scenario in which you can and have exceeded 8GB of RAM), there's this HP envy for $819 after rebate: LINK
Not quite 1080p (1600x900, so higher res than the other HP with the Intel), and perhaps the screen is a bit bigger than you would want (17").
i7-4700MQ
12GB RAM
Also comes with this tablet for free
LINK Posted on 6/10/14 at 1:22 pm to ILikeLSUToo
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If you aren't focused on 16GB of RAM (which might be overkill unless you can give me a technical explanation or an observed and quantified scenario in which you can and have exceeded 8GB of RAM), there's this HP envy for $819 after rebate: LINK
It's not crucial, but when running Ai/Ps/Visual Studio/every browser and a virtual OSX machine to test Safari because Apple dicks don't release a Windows version, I just always figured it'd be safer to err on the having too much side.
I don't have any hard numbers of actual usage, and I respect your opinion on these issues so I'll take your word for it.
Although, with this computer I'd much rather have individual programs run more smoothly and efficiently than focus on running multiple programs simultaneously. If I'm not mistaken, that's where the processor comes in, correct?
quote:
You'd likely pay sales tax at costco
If I can hold out for two months, I can buy it during tax free weekend and save ~10%. I just don't know if I can hold out for two months
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 6/10/14 at 6:55 pm to InVolNerable
Posted on 6/10/14 at 6:59 pm to catfish 62
Ignore that link. Ignore the shite out of it.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 7:30 pm to ILikeLSUToo
Ha why
Posted on 6/10/14 at 8:36 pm to catfish 62
Well, for one thing, it's a list of desktop configurations, so completely irrelevant to the conversation about laptops. Secondly, it doesn't exactly compare or explain the differences in CPU performance even in general terms. Third, the builds are 100% gaming focused.
Lastly, after the "Excellent/Outstanding" tier, their part combinations get a little short-sighted. Not "bad," but very boxed-in and not accounting for more efficient combinations at the higher end; for example, you can use crossfire/SLI 290x's/780 Tis without needing (or even getting any additional gaming performance from) a socket 2011 CPU and the inflated-price mobos--plus, they go from a 4770k to a 4960X with nothing in between--and crossfire 290s are completely ignored. Then they start tacking on excessive RAM, overpriced platinum PSUs, and insanely huge $300+ full tower cases paired with air coolers. They randomly bump an i7 suggestion down to an i5, same socket, and tack on another $100 to the motherboard budget.
Lastly, after the "Excellent/Outstanding" tier, their part combinations get a little short-sighted. Not "bad," but very boxed-in and not accounting for more efficient combinations at the higher end; for example, you can use crossfire/SLI 290x's/780 Tis without needing (or even getting any additional gaming performance from) a socket 2011 CPU and the inflated-price mobos--plus, they go from a 4770k to a 4960X with nothing in between--and crossfire 290s are completely ignored. Then they start tacking on excessive RAM, overpriced platinum PSUs, and insanely huge $300+ full tower cases paired with air coolers. They randomly bump an i7 suggestion down to an i5, same socket, and tack on another $100 to the motherboard budget.
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 6/12/14 at 7:10 am to ILikeLSUToo
What are your thoughts on this? LINK
Pretty decent specs for a good price. The lack of 3.0 usb kind of stinks, but it's something I'm okay living with for that price.
Apparently I pay tax at new egg too.
Pretty decent specs for a good price. The lack of 3.0 usb kind of stinks, but it's something I'm okay living with for that price.
quote:
You'd likely pay sales tax at costco
Apparently I pay tax at new egg too.
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 7:12 am
Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:57 am to InVolNerable
Multi-thread performance of the i5-4200U is about 15% weaker than the A10-5750M in that costco HP. Single core performance is 15% better, though.
Not horrible for the price, though. I have no experience with Samsung laptops as far as build quality. If space isn't an issue, might be worth considering replacing that 5400RPM HDD with a 256GB SSD. I'll probably end up doing that when I decide to buy a new laptop.
Not horrible for the price, though. I have no experience with Samsung laptops as far as build quality. If space isn't an issue, might be worth considering replacing that 5400RPM HDD with a 256GB SSD. I'll probably end up doing that when I decide to buy a new laptop.
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