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What is needed for contractor work in plants?
Posted on 6/10/14 at 6:56 am
Posted on 6/10/14 at 6:56 am
I know they all have different requirements but generally speaking? What cards do personnel need? One of our companies did some port work and only TWIC cards were needed but now we have three industrial projects coming up and we need to make sure our personnel qualifies. We haven't done industrial work since the early 80's so I'm sure it has changed a bit.
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 7:00 am to Martini
You have 3 projects coming up and you're asking the OT?
Seems like that would be in the bid packet or the contract.
Seems like that would be in the bid packet or the contract.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 7:03 am to Martini
I would never hire a contractor for industrial work if they have to ask this question. Not a place to mess around and have people who don't know plant settings. With that said
Osha 10 hr
Osha 40 hr (sometimes)
Site specific
Unit specific (sometimes depending on the unit)
Twic
Osha 10 hr
Osha 40 hr (sometimes)
Site specific
Unit specific (sometimes depending on the unit)
Twic
Posted on 6/10/14 at 7:05 am to Martini
You need TWIC card and OSHA cards from the Alliance Safety Council. However, check the special conditions in your bid package for the specifics on your project as every vender requires different stuff. Some require all workers to wear long sleeves, others require all long sleeves and FRCs at all times. Definitely start there.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 7:11 am to Martini
TWIC in most plants on the Mississippi River although I've heard of projects where they segregate the work area from the areas accessible to the river and waive the TWIC requirement. Usually a minimum of the 8 hour OSHA course at the Safety Council. Site specific training to get them in the plant your project is in. Also, I got an email a couple days ago saying there is an unusually long lead time for getting TWIC cards right now due to card production delays. They're saying it could take 6-8 weeks after the initial approval to receive their cards.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 7:12 am to Martini
As others have already said, read the RFQ! It should show any specific safety rules/regulations. If the client did not include this in the bid package, chances are they won't end up paying on time anyway, because they're a shitty company.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 7:15 am to stout
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stout What is needed for contractor work in plants? You have 3 projects coming up and you're asking the OT? Seems like that would be in the bid packet or the contract.
no these are just small negotiated general const. jobs but a specialty item so not a lot of options for them. And not mine just a business I'm a partner in. They, the other owners, are more qualified than me since I'm just farther removed but I know this place knows everything industrial and I'm too lazy to do much more research. I'm not in charge of the operation. I'll just scoop half of what is made. I'm sitting on the beach.Posted on 6/10/14 at 7:23 am to BayouBrawl
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read the RFQ
You mean the contract or PO
Request for quote prolly won't have that info
Posted on 6/10/14 at 7:27 am to Martini
It can vary greatly. Some places only require you to view a 20 minute video and you can walk in with jeans and a t-shirt.
Others require TWIC, OSHA, FRC/long sleeves, repirator (qual card too), full day at site specific class.
It does vary greatly.
Others require TWIC, OSHA, FRC/long sleeves, repirator (qual card too), full day at site specific class.
It does vary greatly.
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 7:28 am
Posted on 6/10/14 at 7:32 am to Martini
quote:
What cards do personnel need?
generally speaking
TWIC, OSHA, and site specific (if applicable)
Posted on 6/10/14 at 7:33 am to Martini
Oh ok so this is a brag thread...got it.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 7:45 am to Martini
Every plant is different. All usually require a site specific. Most require OSHA Basic. Some require DISA and/or TWIC.
Then there are PPE requirements - each plant is different.
Bottom line, talk to your GC now and make sure you know what is required before you start. It can take weeks (if not months) to get your personnel ready for some plants.
Then there are PPE requirements - each plant is different.
Bottom line, talk to your GC now and make sure you know what is required before you start. It can take weeks (if not months) to get your personnel ready for some plants.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 7:47 am to stout
Like someone else said - lots of facilities have different requirements. There may even be specific requirements within a facility depending on where in the plant you are working and what type of unit you may be working on or near. Most plants also require contractors and subcontractors to carry a certain amount of general liability. You should definitely check into what specific requirements the individual facilities require. Your employees may have to have up to date drug testing too.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 7:54 am to djangochained
The majority of the RFQ's that I get have that information. Training should be included in your quote. Also, I'm not referencing sub-contract RFQ's, but actual client RFQ's. It should define everything you need to know to submit a price. If it doesn't, you need to request the information or exclude it from your quote. Either way, the contract documents, whether RFQ or the contract will have to spell it out.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 7:57 am to stout
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Posted by Message stout What is needed for contractor work in plants? Oh ok so this is a brag thread...got it.
No. It's not a brag thread. It's I've worked my arse off on my side to build what I have and took a huge risk and invested in another business that has potential to be pretty profitable but I'm trusting someone else thread.
And the others that answered told me what I needed to know. As I said its a specialty application that has been in commercial and now they are getting qualified and requests for industrial. No RFP, no GC ( we are the GC) and mostly not in hot areas. I've worked in Exxon, Dow, BASF, the old Borden Chemical etc... over the years so I do have a bit of experience. As I said it has just been quite awhile and I myself will not be directly involved. Just asking a general question and to those who answered thanks.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 8:02 am to theBeard
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I would never hire a contractor for industrial work if they have to ask this question. Not a place to mess around and have people who don't know plant settings. With that said
Osha 10 hr
Osha 40 hr (sometimes)
Site specific
Unit specific (sometimes depending on the unit)
Twic
This is pretty accurate for our site. TWIC is required everywhere here, not just docks. You are also required to have a drug testing policy that covers very specific things and belong to DISA and meet all EHS requirements for safety. OSHA rate is looked at hard.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 8:07 am to BayouBrawl
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Either way, the contract documents, whether RFQ or the contract will have to spell it out.
I include that in my RFI before I even get to the RFQ point so they know exactly what will be required to work on site. Some companies will just respond that they don't want to be included after seeing the laundry list of things.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 8:22 am to Martini
Check with their insurance requirements as well, you are going to need it lined up in advance.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 8:55 am to theBeard
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I would never hire a contractor for industrial work if they have to ask this question
This.
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