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re: Terrence Magee
Posted on 6/9/14 at 9:32 pm to rmnldr
Posted on 6/9/14 at 9:32 pm to rmnldr
Ive watched him play man. And every year, you hear that same things about him: Hes in the best shape of his life, quicker, faster, looks great, etc.
Its not really his physical tools that are the problem, except that hes slow for an SEC RB, but thats really it. Its the mental part IMO. He doesnt have good vision or quick feet and hes not a physical runner and goes down too easy. Hes just kinda blah... hes soft.
And hes had way more opportunities than Magee has. Hell, after his freshman year he was in line to be the starter. Blue passed him up. Then Blue gets hurt, and Hill passed him up. Last year, Magee passed him up. Magee is already ahead of him and you gotta think LF is as well.
Its not really his physical tools that are the problem, except that hes slow for an SEC RB, but thats really it. Its the mental part IMO. He doesnt have good vision or quick feet and hes not a physical runner and goes down too easy. Hes just kinda blah... hes soft.
And hes had way more opportunities than Magee has. Hell, after his freshman year he was in line to be the starter. Blue passed him up. Then Blue gets hurt, and Hill passed him up. Last year, Magee passed him up. Magee is already ahead of him and you gotta think LF is as well.
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I wouldn't be surprised if he looks very much like Jeremy Hill except with more emphasis on power. He's a mix between Ware and Hill and he will not disappoint.
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 9:36 pm
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 9:39 pm to KG5989
You act like Blue and Hill were bad.
Blue was underrated and Hill was a monster.
He's built like Ware and Hill. He has the tools to play like them too.
With that mentality let's just shite on the rest of our players too.
Hilliard is not fricking soft.
ETA: Hilliard highlights:
LINK
Now back to Magee
Blue was underrated and Hill was a monster.
He's built like Ware and Hill. He has the tools to play like them too.
With that mentality let's just shite on the rest of our players too.
Hilliard is not fricking soft.
ETA: Hilliard highlights:
LINK
Now back to Magee
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 6/9/14 at 9:44 pm to KG5989
Hilliard is a big back that runs with enough power to break arm tackles, but doesn't run over people. Magee plays bigger than he is, and runs the way he should to succeed. He reminds me so much of Ray Rice's running style.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 9:57 pm to nycajun
I have been saying this ever since LF committed to us. People forget about how good Magee was last year. Him, Hilliard and Fournette with maybe Williams. 
Posted on 6/9/14 at 9:57 pm to nycajun
I like Magee , but he's not a stud. He's a complementary back that can give you 8-10 carries. Hill was the only stud we had last year.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:05 pm to rmnldr
quote:
Hilliard is not fricking soft.
ETA: Hilliard highlights:
This.
the dude has fricking 22 TDs in 3 years and a 5.2 YPC.
He's the type of runner that needs at least 15 carries. Anything less and its tough to judge his full body of work. Even with that said, he's been super productive in the role we've asked of him.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:10 pm to redfish99
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I like Magee , but he's not a stud. He's a complementary back that can give you 8-10 carries.
based on what?
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:12 pm to rmnldr
quote:Umm where did I say that? Nowhere. Doesnt change the fact that Hilliard has 1st crack at being the RB1 after his freshman year and when Blue got hurt during his sophomore season, but never held onto that spot. And then Magee passed him up this past season. And LF is most likely ahead of him as well. So he will be the RB3... By the time its midway through the year, I see LF taking over as being the guy and Magee going back to the role he was last year, but will have an expanded role and see more carries.
You act like Blue and Hill were bad.
quote:Yet he never has...
He's built like Ware and Hill. He has the tools to play like them too.
And no he doesnt have the tools like them either. Similar in stature, but thats all. The biggest thing hes missing compared to Ware and Hill is that edge and attitude when running the ball... that attitude that nobody will bring me down and im taking this to the house, even though Hilliard gets caught from behind way too easy. Hes not nearly as physical of a runner as Ware and I doubt hes faster. And lacks the vision of Ware and ability to make people miss. Hill is on another level than Hilliard and its not really close. quote:Jeez... overreact much? All I said about Hilliard is that hes soft and I wish he ran the ball with the attitude that Ware had. Never said anything bad about anyone else... and majority of people on here would say the same about Hilliard as well.
With that mentality let's just shite on the rest of our players too.
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Hilliard is not fricking soft.
Yes he is. His freshman year, he looked like he was going to be great. These past 2 seasons, hes a completely diff running back and its obvious.
Cool highlights.... Jordan Jefferson has some pretty sweet highlights as well... because they are highlights.
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 10:16 pm
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:13 pm to Lester Earl
Whats been happening Lester?? 
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:18 pm to KG5989
Not much, trying to peg exactly what i think Hilliard's draft stock is at the moment 
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:49 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:51 pm to redfish99
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I like Magee , but he's not a stud. He's a complementary back that can give you 8-10 carries. Hill was the only stud we had last year.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:54 pm to KG5989
Hilliard is a hoss. LF doesn't have a single highlight reel wearing an LSU jersey. Regardless, our backfield will be stacked and you can bet your arse Hilliard and McGee will pull their weight.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:01 pm to nycajun
I really loved what TM brought to the table last year. He always brought a lot of energy with every carry.
Those two True Freshmen are going to have to put in a lot of work and get their blocking skills down pat before TM has to worry about them taking his spot.
I also hope that Hilliard shows a little more energy this season because he and Williams could be two damned big chested power backs and do a lot of damage late in games.
Those two True Freshmen are going to have to put in a lot of work and get their blocking skills down pat before TM has to worry about them taking his spot.
I also hope that Hilliard shows a little more energy this season because he and Williams could be two damned big chested power backs and do a lot of damage late in games.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:05 pm to KG5989
I like the idea of TM getting the #18 Jersey.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:26 pm to Grizzley
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LF doesn't have a single highlight reel wearing an LSU jersey.
Nope.... and hes already the favorite to become our RB1 and best RB at some point during the season, with Magee going back to his role from last years but an expanded version where he gets more work.
Theres a reason why we didnt take any RBs in 2013 class... in fact we turned down some really good RB recruits. Its only a matter of time before LF takes the reins, and thats a given. Even if he doesnt improve at all from his senior year to his freshman year at LSU, he still would be our best RB. Thats the type of talent he is. And hes going to improve simply from his work ethic and attitude combined with his raw natural talent. There arent too many guys that have it all, size, speed, strength, god given talent, work ethic and attitude... but LF does.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:30 pm to KG5989
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Its not really his physical tools that are the problem, except that hes slow for an SEC RB, but thats really it. Its the mental part IMO. He doesnt have good vision or quick feet and hes not a physical runner and goes down too easy. Hes just kinda blah... hes soft.
This doesn't even make sense. You say physical tools aren't the problem, but he's slow, doesn't have good feet, and isn't physical. I may disagree with your entire premise based on how you define problem.
The part about him being soft is Bullshite. But he has had an up-and-down career, and has become less of a bruising, physical runner than he was as a freshman when he was 240 pounds -- playing fullback, running through tackles, doing some lead blocking on occasion, barreling over future-NFL-CB Brandon Boykin in the SECCG, etc.
Since that frosh season, he's dropped weight and hasn't been as physical as he was for whatever reason. But for a 230-240 RB, he does have good feet and vision. Not on the level of Jeremy Hill, but Hill probably had the best combination of feet and vision for a 230+ back in LSU history.
KH doesn't run with the decisive, attacking, violent nature of a guy like Spencer Ware. When Hilliard has been at his best, he runs with a more subtle physicality, with a lot of body positioning that lessens the effectiveness and severity of the blow from defenders. Actually, I really think Ware would have benefited from using more subtlety in his approach. He left some yards on the field looking to initiate contact with the defense, but Ware's style did have the benefit of physically wearing down a D.
Career Rushing Stats (3 Years for both)
Kenny Hilliard - 1110 Yards, 5.2 YPC, 21 TDs
Spencer Ware - 1249 Yards, 4.2 YPC, 10 TDs
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 2:53 am
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:57 pm to rmnldr
quote:
Hilliard is not fricking soft.
ETA: Hilliard highlights:
LINK
That's right.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:01 am to nycajun
I think Magee will do well, but I think Hilliard has shown his hand. He'll get around 3-4 hundred yards and 6-7 TDs. He's a goal line back.
It took some time (too long imo) but true freshman Hill got 129 carries as the starting RB in the last 7 games for 18.4 carries a game. That was with sophomore Hilliard, junior Blue, junior Ware, and redshirt junior Ford ahead of him. Magee was relocated to WR.
By the time we hit Auburn, Fournette will be getting 17 carries a game or more as the starter.
It took some time (too long imo) but true freshman Hill got 129 carries as the starting RB in the last 7 games for 18.4 carries a game. That was with sophomore Hilliard, junior Blue, junior Ware, and redshirt junior Ford ahead of him. Magee was relocated to WR.
By the time we hit Auburn, Fournette will be getting 17 carries a game or more as the starter.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:10 am to Lester Earl
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He's the type of runner that needs at least 15 carries. Anything less and its tough to judge his full body of work. Even with that said, he's been super productive in the role we've asked of him.
This is a good point on Hilliard too. KH is a big back that can handle a heavy work load and thrive on a high amount of carries, especially playing with a lead against a tired, worn-down defense, but that just hasn't been his role at LSU.
He's only gone over 15 carries once in his career - 19 Carries for 102 Yards vs. Arkansas in 2011 as a frosh. Strong game for Kenny.
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 12:15 am
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