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Over 80% of Americans say Socialism has been good for the country
Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:49 am
Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:49 am
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88% say Social Security has been good for the country.
87% say Medicare has been good for the country.
77% say Medicaid has been good for the country.
These are all socialist programs.
This poll proves that when push comes to shove, the USA is a liberal socialist country.
It may be popular to declare oneself a "conservative," but when socialist programs are on the line, few people want to do away with them.
88% say Social Security has been good for the country.
87% say Medicare has been good for the country.
77% say Medicaid has been good for the country.
These are all socialist programs.
This poll proves that when push comes to shove, the USA is a liberal socialist country.
It may be popular to declare oneself a "conservative," but when socialist programs are on the line, few people want to do away with them.
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:51 am to samson'sseed
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This poll proves that when push comes to shove, people will accept other peoples money if offered.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:53 am to samson'sseed
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This poll proves that when push comes to shove, most U.S. citizens are selfish and can't see beyond their own lifetimes to consider the solvency of the United State's long-term finances.
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 7:54 am
Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:54 am to samson'sseed
i'd imagine about 10 years ago, similar rates of people opposed gay marriage. #wrongsideofhistory
Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:58 am to UGATiger26
This poll proves that people who have paid in to a retirement and medical program for all their adult lives (disclaimer: author is expecting to cash in at some point) expect at some point to use those services.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:59 am to samson'sseed
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88% say Social Security has been good for the country. 87% say Medicare has been good for the country. 77% say Medicaid has been good for the country.
Social Security or Medicare/Medicaid isn't "Socialism".
Socialism is
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communal ownership: a political theory or system in which the means of production and distribution are controlled by the people and operated according to equity and fairness rather than market principles
A word for things like Social Security, Medicare, Infrastructure, law enforcement, national defense is "civilization". People like that. Unfortunately we've become a little too "civilized" in that we're spending money we don't have on things we don't need.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 8:00 am to a want
Now let's bring on socialized healthcare and more equitable tax structure wand repatriate all the hidden funds overseas. never happen
Posted on 6/9/14 at 8:05 am to samson'sseed
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“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.” Margaret Thatcher
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 8:06 am
Posted on 6/9/14 at 8:12 am to samson'sseed
quote:I'd bet that well past 90% would say interstate highways have been good for the country.
88% say Social Security has been good for the country
More might say a national defense has been good for the country.
Did you have a point?
Posted on 6/9/14 at 8:12 am to a want
quote:Exactly.
Social Security or Medicare/Medicaid isn't "Socialism".
Posted on 6/9/14 at 8:33 am to samson'sseed
On one hand I'm against social security on principle. On the other hand, my grandma on my mom's side is incredibly irresponsible. When my mom was growing up, her parents used to spend their entire paychecks. They smoked and drank and spent a lot of their money on those things.
Now that she's old and retired, she doesn't have hardly any money.
You can say she should have saved and should have been more responsible and yadda yadda. I know. But there is no time machine so it's reality.
A lot of people do not save anything. Why? I have no idea why people are so irresponsible. But they are. It's just how it is.
Which is why the government essentially saving for them might not be such a bad idea. On principe I disagree with it. But on practicality, we may be better off as a country from it.
Now that she's old and retired, she doesn't have hardly any money.
You can say she should have saved and should have been more responsible and yadda yadda. I know. But there is no time machine so it's reality.
A lot of people do not save anything. Why? I have no idea why people are so irresponsible. But they are. It's just how it is.
Which is why the government essentially saving for them might not be such a bad idea. On principe I disagree with it. But on practicality, we may be better off as a country from it.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 8:40 am to samson'sseed
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These are all socialist programs.
188 IQ detected.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 8:42 am to PrimeTime Money
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A lot of people do not save anything. Why? I have no idea why people are so irresponsible. But they are. It's just how it is.
You don't fix the problem by continuing to subsidize irresponsibility and stealing from the future.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 8:44 am to joshnorris14
quote:How do you fix it?
You don't fix the problem by continuing to subsidize irresponsibility and stealing from the future.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 8:44 am to PrimeTime Money
I have no problem with concept if social security but it isn't sustainable in it's current form. It should be practical...move the retirement age to keep up with average lifespans and only pay a person what they put in
Posted on 6/9/14 at 8:49 am to joshnorris14
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You don't fix the problem by continuing to subsidize irresponsibility and stealing from the future.
Yea you let grandma starve in the streets. That'll teach em!
Posted on 6/9/14 at 8:52 am to deltaland
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only pay a person what they put in
What about the interest earned on your contribution to SS over your working life span? If the government is going to forcefully take my money to run their business shouldn't we get some kind of reward for the "loan" to the government for all those years. If you say "well you are getting interest paid on your contribution but that should be all" then I say let me keep my own money and invest it the way I see fit.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 8:55 am to samson'sseed
This poll proves that Ben Franklin was right. As usual.
“When the people find that they can vote themselves money,
that will herald the end of the republic.”
- Benjamin Franklin
“When the people find that they can vote themselves money,
that will herald the end of the republic.”
- Benjamin Franklin
Posted on 6/9/14 at 8:57 am to MJM
quote:Are we trying to have a conversation about Social Security? One of the least redistributive federal programs out there?quote:Yea you let grandma starve in the streets
You don't fix the problem by continuing to subsidize irresponsibility and stealing from the future.
The OP is a sad troll.
Are we taking his ridiculous premise prima facie?
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 9:18 am
Posted on 6/9/14 at 9:13 am to samson'sseed
I would prefer to have all the money the government takes out of my check, but since they do yes, I think it would be good to get it back at some point.
I am sure I never will.
I am sure I never will.
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