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Holding prisoners for over a decade...

Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:34 pm
Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:34 pm
with no substantial evidence? What in God's name are we doing?

After the new "developments" that arose today, whether true or untrue, how is this justifiable?

Either we just let 5 top terrorists free, or we just imprison people for the hell of it, and successfully added 5 new terrorists to the mix who otherwise didn't have a problem with us until we threw them in jail for a decade. Either way you cook it it's fricked up.
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:36 pm to
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with no substantial evidence?


ummm....what??


the UN seemed to have all the evidence they needed


i would suggest doing some research before starting your next thread
This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 4:41 pm
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:39 pm to
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successfully added 5 new terrorists to the mix who otherwise didn't have a problem with us until we threw them in jail for a decade



Wut?
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80099 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:40 pm to
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Holding prisoners for over a decade...


If they were part of an attack on America, then I think they should be held

If they were part of an attack on another country, they should be turned over to that country

If they were just captured because they were associated with, but not part of an attack, they should be freed.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12420 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:40 pm to
How do you release a POW for a war that can't be declared over, and therefore, will always have the risk of the POW resuming the war against us?
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:44 pm to
I hate taking prisoners period. Catch them, interrogate, slit throat.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80099 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

I hate taking prisoners period. Catch them, interrogate, slit throat.



So heres the question... What are the remaining people held for? Were they part of the planning/attack on 9/11 or were they captured in Afghanistan on the battlefield?
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:49 pm to
This isn't random imprisonment wtf are you thinking?
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12420 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

 Were they part of the planning/attack on 9/11 or were they captured in Afghanistan on the battlefield? 


Those that were captured in Afghanistan, how do we know if they were just fighting a war of Afghanistan independence against us, or if they were part of the Afghanistan global terrorism against us?
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
54818 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

with no substantial evidence? What in God's name are we doing?

After the new "developments" that arose today, whether true or untrue, how is this justifiable?

Either we just let 5 top terrorists free, or we just imprison people for the hell of it, and successfully added 5 new terrorists to the mix who otherwise didn't have a problem with us until we threw them in jail for a decade. Either way you cook it it's fricked up.





Damn you a ignant hack.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80099 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:56 pm to
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how do we know if they were just fighting a war of Afghanistan independence against us, or if they were part of the Afghanistan global terrorism against us?



And that goes back to my issue... Why do we have these people?

Theres two reasons why they could have been captured
1) Connected to 9/11 and we wanted them brought to justice
2) Were fighting against Afghan govt in civil war

If it is 1, then they should be tried for the murder of 2500 people on Sept 11th. If its 2, then they should be turned over to the afghanis as we were supposedly there supporting them.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62373 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:57 pm to
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Damn you a ignant hack.


Needed his drama-queen fix for the day. "Leave Brittany alone"....
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 5:01 pm to
I see nobody understands what my point. Let me break it down in simpler terms.

1. We've held these guys for 12 or so years.

2. We just released them.

3. Statements were released saying we were going to release them anyway because of lack of evidence (not saying this is true, but it's what was said)

So either we:

1. Released 5 legit terrorists

Or

2. Held 5 "prisoners" for over a decade with no substantial evidence.

It's not that complicated.
Posted by GooseSix
Member since Jun 2012
19504 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 5:07 pm to
quote:

If they were part of an attack on America, then I think they should be held If they were part of an attack on another country, they should be turned over to that country If they were just captured because they were associated with, but not part of an attack, they should be freed.


Stop thinking. Everyone will be better for it..
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12420 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

Were fighting against Afghan govt in civil war 


I guess this is one way to describe what happened in Afghanistan


Kinda



But not really
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5343 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 5:12 pm to
For those of us who were sent to war let me help some of you out. We are still engaged in the conflict and therefore don't need to be releasing anyone that can be found again on the battlefield. We have already seen that episode before and over the years many of their home countries won't take them back.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80099 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

I guess this is one way to describe what happened in Afghanistan


Kinda



But not really


Then explain... Why should we capture and hold people that have not committed an act against the US?
Posted by rintintin
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 5:16 pm to
Who's saying they should be released?
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37247 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 5:20 pm to
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and successfully added 5 new terrorists to the mix who otherwise didn't have a problem with us until we threw them in jail for a decade.


If you were wrongly convicted of a crime and sentenced to ten years in prison, upon release would you become a terrorist?
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16157 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 5:23 pm to
quote:


If you were wrongly convicted of a crime and sentenced to ten years in prison, upon release would you become a terrorist?



Of course
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