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Thoughts on alternative offshore chum/baits

Posted on 6/5/14 at 3:01 pm
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6840 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 3:01 pm
I've been considering using some alternative sources for chum and/or bait for rig fish for an upcoming offshore trip.

Two things have come to mind and I was wondering what the OB thought:
1. Threadfin shad - I can cast net all the shad I want pretty much and I was considering freezing large quantities to cut up for chum offshore or using whole ones as bait

2. Scrap venison - whenever I process my deer there is always some scrap meat left over. Too tough/sinewy to really do anything with so I end up just throwing it in a bag to freeze. I probably have 2 gallon bags of it accumulated.

Do you think offshore fish would eat either or both of the above?
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24949 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 3:26 pm to
Wonder if the commercial crawfish bait would work? Seems like it would get some stink in the water and not make a mess in the boat.
Posted by CroakaBait
Gulf Coast of the Land Mass
Member since Nov 2013
3972 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:23 pm to
quote:

Threadfin shad

This may work for chum if they fall apart easy, not sure of how much oil they'll put off in comparison to the menhaden we normally use. Menhaden oil is like crack to lemonfish.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
55979 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:26 pm to
quote:

Do you think offshore fish would eat either or both of the above?


I think offshore fish would eat both of those...the venison might pull up some sharks or something like that, though...
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
6416 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:28 pm to
Menhaden oil is like crack to all fish, salt or fresh
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12806 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:56 pm to
I wouldn't use venison due to sharks. Crawfish bait would work if you ground it up and added menhaden oil. For a while I used pasta/rice/pogey oil/gulp chum/by catch mixture.
Posted by OhFace55
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
7040 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:59 pm to
I hse the remains of boiled crawfish. Put it in a large bucket and get some boots. Stomp it into small pieces and bam.
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 5:04 am to
quote:

1. Threadfin shad - I can cast net all the shad I want pretty much and I was considering freezing large quantities to cut up for chum offshore or using whole ones as bait


Outstanding chum and bait if they are about 4" to 8". If you have a meat grinder, pass them thru that one time and put that in a cut off milk jug, add a little water and freeze. Buy a couple landry bags or crawfish sacks, drop block in and hang over the side. Easy chum.

I wouldn't use meat. That might bring in the sharks.
This post was edited on 6/6/14 at 5:06 am
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 5:05 am to
I have put almost everything immaginable in a chum churn at some point. Yes the scrap veneson will work to some degree as will leftovers,boiled rice with fish oil added and just about anything else ranging from mac and cheese to shrimp hulls and cornbread. Once you get some chummed in you can feed them almost anything. Real FISH does work best however getting things to come in.
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