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Were the Gitmo Detainees Who Were Released Terrorists or Something Else?

Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:12 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:12 pm
I keep hearing people refer to the Gitmo detainees who were exchanged for Bergdahl as terrorists. However, I am skeptical that we could actually tie them to any specific terrorist attack. They were all clearly members of the Taliban, who was the ruling party of Afghanistan when we attacked. Of course they have fighting against "coalition" forces as acts of terror on their resume, but as government and army officials they would be expected to do so against an invading force. One of them is considered a drug dealer.

Here is the brief narrative on each, who seemed to hold some high positions even though they were in their earlier 30's when captured. LINK

What do you all think?
Posted by Jay Quest
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:16 pm to
Makes you wonder why the Obama administration allowed these innocents to be incarcerated for such a lengthy period of time.

Heard Van jones declaring each of them to be the salt of the earth yesterday.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:19 pm to
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What do you all think?


i think you searched the internet looking for the liberal talking points
Posted by NbamaTiger90
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:22 pm to
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who was the ruling party of Afghanistan when we attacked


They are just a little ole political party.



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The Taliban have been accused of using terrorism as a specific tactic to further their ideological and political goals.[34][35] According to the United Nations, the Taliban and their allies were responsible for 75% of Afghan civilian casualties in 2010, 80% in 2011, and 80% in 2012.[36][37][38]
Posted by mmcgrath
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:23 pm to
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i think you searched the internet looking for the liberal talking points
It is a serious question. Yes, I know the admin will try to white wash them and the Hard Line Conservatives will try to find every bad thing they did.

Its too bad that we know so little about people that we are detaining. We should be able to try them on at least some offenses in order to hold them.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:24 pm to
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Were the Gitmo Detainees Who Were Released




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They were all clearly members of the Taliban


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Of course they have fighting against "coalition" forces as acts of terror on their resume


well it looks like you answered your own question
Posted by mmcgrath
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:24 pm to
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The Taliban have been accused of using terrorism as a specific tactic to further their ideological and political goals.[34][35] According to the United Nations, the Taliban and their allies were responsible for 75% of Afghan civilian casualties in 2010, 80% in 2011, and 80% in 2012.[36][37][38]
This was a decade after they were captured.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:25 pm to
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We should be able to try them on at least some offenses in order to hold them.


so you think these guys should be Mirandized and allowed to use our legal system?
Posted by NbamaTiger90
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:29 pm to
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This was a decade after they were captured.


2 of them are wanted for Thousands of deaths.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:34 pm to
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What do you all think?


I can't speak for anyone else, but here's what I think:

ANY member of the Taliban is a terrorist. These guys will not just become bakers for gay wedding cakes now that they're out. They will resume their killing ways very soon - against the U. S., against anyone they feel is a U. S. sympathizer/collaborator, against anyone who doesn't hold to their murderous brand of Islam.

Blood will be shed. Some of it will be U. S. blood, and THAT blood will be on Obama's girly hands.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:35 pm to
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so you think these guys should be Mirandized and allowed to use our legal system?
I am not sure. But there should be at least one specific act or terror that they should be charged with. Simply shooting back when the country was invaded isn't enough, IMO.

Heck, there was Sharia (sp?) Law at the time. There is probably one woman they beat or had publicly stoned, right?
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:35 pm to
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Heard Van jones declaring each of them to be the salt of the earth yesterday.





A devout communist supporting radical religious ruling clerics.

Now Ive seen everything.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:36 pm to
If Obama didn't want them, he could have turned them over to the U.N. who wanted them for mass murder and acts of terrorism.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:37 pm to
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I am not sure


this is why our country is going to shite. how can you not be sure? our legal system is not for fricking enemy combatants...its for US citizens


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But there should be at least one specific act or terror that they should be charged with. Simply shooting back when the country was invaded isn't enough, IMO.


they're called enemy combatants. they don't have to be "charged" with anything. wtf is wrong with you people?
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 12:38 pm
Posted by Jay Quest
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:38 pm to
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A devout communist supporting radical religious ruling clerics.

Honestly I didn't even consider the dichotomy of his position. Good catch.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:38 pm to
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wtf is wrong with you people?


they're in the Obozo cult of personality.

They cognitive dissonance NEEDS a reason to support Obozo on this topic, so they are reaching for anything they can find.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35394 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:46 pm to
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this is why our country is going to shite. how can you not be sure? our legal system is not for fricking enemy combatants...its for US citizens
I rethought this after I posted "not sure" and decided that it wouldn't be in our jurisdiction unless there were acts that included American citizens.
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they're called enemy combatants. they don't have to be "charged" with anything. wtf is wrong with you people?
The US should not hold anyone as captive unless there is something wrong that they did. We cannot hold "enemy combatants" whose only offense was being part of a government of a country that we invaded.

With respect to these guys, some of them might not have ever even fired a shot at a US soldier.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:50 pm to
Right. They only provided training for the 9/11 attack and subsequent attacks.

quote:

one Taliban commander in Afghanistan, Mullah Salem Khan, announced that the freed five had already started prepping to do battle, the New York Daily News reported.

“As soon as they arrived in Qatar, they rejoined the Taliban,” he told The Daily Beast, “We don’t care about U.S. conditions and obstacles.”


Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:50 pm to
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The US should not hold anyone as captive unless there is something wrong that they did


like trying to kill US soldiers? Jesus Christ...


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We cannot hold "enemy combatants" whose only offense was being part of a government of a country that we invaded.


its funny that you keep calling the Taliban a government.



this thread is literally starting to piss me the frick off


This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 12:51 pm
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:52 pm to
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“We don’t care about U.S. conditions and obstacles.”


I see a Red Line in this person's future.

If he doesn't straighten up...he is likely to get a "wrong side of history" speech.


You've been warned, Salem Khan.
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