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General Al-Sisi Wins Egyptian Presidential Election With 97% Of Vote

Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:18 pm
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:18 pm
As Yogi Berra would say, it's deja vu all over again. Didn't John Kerry say that the Egyptian military overthrew the Morsi government in order to "restore democracy" in Egypt?

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The former military chief, who last July overthrew Egypt's first democratically elected president, Mohammed Morsi, won 96.91 of legal votes cast in last week's election. . . . .

The results, and the swearing in on Sunday, crown the rise of the retired field marshal who has suppressed Morsi's supporters, promised to restore stability and the economy after three years of turmoil.

Sisi has said it will take 25 years to bring a real democracy and has spoken out against too many freedoms that cause turmoil, amid an already shrinking space for political activity.


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EDIT: It looks like the Egyptian people are back to square one, but Al-Sisi has no doubt learned from the past, and will make Mubarak look like Thomas Jeffereson.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 1:21 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:21 pm to
Arab Spring, motherfrickers
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:23 pm to
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Al-Sisi
Sounds gay.







j/k j/k

Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:26 pm to
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won 96.91 of legal votes


Sounds legit.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:44 pm to
It's tough being a secularist in Egypt. First they cut a deal with the Brotherhood, in which they would give the Brotherhood their votes, in a real free and fair election, in return for a piece of the pie after the Brotherhood won, only to be double-crossed as soon as Morsi was sworn in. Then they take to the streets to get the military to orchestrate a coup in order to get a do-over on the election, and the generals screw them too, by returning the country to the same old military dictatorship they had before, only worse. Perhaps they should stop these protests and revolutions, because it seems that they only move them backwards, not forward. A couple more revolutions and they'll all be slaves building giant pyramids.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34867 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:53 pm to
You're lookin at our future, tf; only difference being that it'll be Col. Allen West running the show. We all know that the freeloaders will go rogue when the dollar collapses; and just like over there...there just won't be any other option.

Scary...but likely true. If Obama is allowed to shut this place down much longer.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:55 pm to
Are you advocating a military dictatorship for the U.S.?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:58 pm to
97%

You gotta love democracy.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 2:03 pm to
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Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34867 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

Are you advocating a military dictatorship for the U.S.?


Hell no, buddy. I'm PREDICTING one, if this economy goes south.

Obama has spent the last few years encouraging and making hay off class/race/gender political warfare. Spending and addicting folk to all manner of existentially unsustainable government (QE-based) subsidies. What happens when the morally-owed freebies go away.

There is real antipathy out there in the populous. Just like in Egypt, when they found out their duly DEMOCRATICALLY-elected dear leader (Morsi)...had LIED LIKE A RUG in order to "fundamentally change the nation". Deja vu all over again, right here.



Posted by constant cough
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 2:04 pm to
They should have came out with a believable number like the Dems did with Obama.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 2:06 pm to
They were given a fair shot and failed to take it. Best of luck to them.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66344 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 2:08 pm to
Thew problem with the middle east is people are given choices of being run by dictators or allowing their neighbors to elect fundamentalists who then make themselves dictators.

Kinda like the Fascism or Communism option that was running through Europe in the 20's and 30's
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 2:45 pm to
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It's tough being a secularist in Egypt.


This made me laugh.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 2:53 pm to
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They were given a fair shot


Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 2:54 pm to
quote:


They should have came out with a believable number like the Dems did with Obama.

Yeah right. Better examples would be the Republicans in Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51241 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 2:54 pm to
So in the end, Egypt is going to be a military dictatorship. Funny how things work out...
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 3:10 pm to
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They were given a fair shot and failed to take it. Best of luck to them.

The problem with the Egyptian secularists is that they were too impatient. The Brotherhood had lost a lot of the support that it had when Morsi was elected. Instead of imploring the military to overthrow Morsi, it should have demanded that the military guaranee that the Brotherhood not rig or cancel the next election. In the U.S., even when the President's approval rating is in the 20's, he's still allowed to serve out his term before the people "throw the bums out" in the next election.

Creating a democracy is like giving birth to a child. The first free and fair election is the conception. The period in between the first election and the second election is the gestation period, and the second free and fair election in which power is peacefully handed over from one person/party to another is the birth. With Egypt, as with many fledgling democracies, democracy was aborted before it came to life, in this case, by the military.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Member since Jan 2012
78912 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 3:10 pm to
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and the generals screw them too, by returning the country to the same old military dictatorship they had before


While I agree it will be a military dictatorship, why do you think it will be worse than HB's rule?
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