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What happened to USC baseball?
Posted on 6/3/14 at 9:53 am
Posted on 6/3/14 at 9:53 am
They were once one of the best programs in the country and now have basically been irrelevant for close to a decade. Did they stop putting money into the program? Rise of other programs around them put a dent into their recruiting?
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 9:56 am to BilJ
Their facilities are a dump
Irvine and Fullerton have better coaches and are in better locations.
Irvine and Fullerton have better coaches and are in better locations.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 9:57 am to BilJ
The school's history, academics, location and proximity to a ton of baseball talent makes it puzzling to me as well. I know their stadium is tiny, so maybe the facilities/amenities suck
Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:04 am to BilJ
Bad coaches (Garrett pushing out Gillespie was truly incredible), idiotic recruiting strategy of going after top ranked guys who all go pro, and improving local programs that can offer much cheaper tuition with the current scholarship restrictions.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:15 am to AlexLSU
Poor leadership. Mike Garrett. UCLA basketball problem = USC baseball problem.
Paul Hackett, John Robinson Part II, etc. Garrett didn't even want Pete Carroll - he lucked into that one hire.
But USC athletic director Mike Garrett fired/let Gillespie leave in 2006 - same guy who is running UC Irvine - who just knocked off the #1 seed.
Gillespie led USC from 1987 to 2006, earning four College World Series appearances and one national championship.
It's a joke... In the 66 years that the College World Series has been in existence, USC has won nearly one in five times and twice as much as any other team. But has been irrelevant for over a decade.
Perhaps USC was just fortunate to have that one great coach - like Coach Wooden and UCLA basketball - and once that coach is gone - so go the titles?
From 1942 to 1986, USC saw six head football coaches, seven head basketball coaches and five school presidents, but only one head baseball coach: the legendary Rod Dedeaux - named Coach of the Century by Collegiate Baseball.
Facilities won't be a problem - now with the new John McKay center that all the athletes use.
But players go to coaches...not facilities - which is why Cal St. Fullerton had great teams back to the 80's. Smaller - less traditional powers have always had great teams in baseball because kids go for the coaching and not facilities.
USC needs another homerun coach - just like most programs.
Paul Hackett, John Robinson Part II, etc. Garrett didn't even want Pete Carroll - he lucked into that one hire.
But USC athletic director Mike Garrett fired/let Gillespie leave in 2006 - same guy who is running UC Irvine - who just knocked off the #1 seed.
Gillespie led USC from 1987 to 2006, earning four College World Series appearances and one national championship.
It's a joke... In the 66 years that the College World Series has been in existence, USC has won nearly one in five times and twice as much as any other team. But has been irrelevant for over a decade.
Perhaps USC was just fortunate to have that one great coach - like Coach Wooden and UCLA basketball - and once that coach is gone - so go the titles?
From 1942 to 1986, USC saw six head football coaches, seven head basketball coaches and five school presidents, but only one head baseball coach: the legendary Rod Dedeaux - named Coach of the Century by Collegiate Baseball.
Facilities won't be a problem - now with the new John McKay center that all the athletes use.
But players go to coaches...not facilities - which is why Cal St. Fullerton had great teams back to the 80's. Smaller - less traditional powers have always had great teams in baseball because kids go for the coaching and not facilities.
USC needs another homerun coach - just like most programs.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:31 am to Zamoro10
High tuition coupled with the rise of other local programs (CS-Fullerton, Long Beach State, UCLA).
Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:35 am to BilJ
Tim Floyd
Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:40 am to burdman
the rise of pepperdine, irvine, long beach, and even some of the big west schools like san diego and cal poly
they will continue to be irrevlant til a new coach and philosophy is brought in
they will continue to be irrevlant til a new coach and philosophy is brought in
Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:56 am to Jack Bauer7
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the rise of pepperdine, irvine, long beach, and even some of the big west schools like san diego and cal poly
The above is symptomatic of the high tuition and scholarship limitations associated with college baseball.
The Trojans actually had a decent season this year, streaky but with some flashes of brilliance. Just nowhere near the dynastic nature of the Dedeaux years.
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