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Work to live vs live to work?

Posted on 5/30/14 at 7:53 pm
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 7:53 pm
I understand you gotta pay your dues at a certain age to live the way you'd like to later on. But at what point do you tell your employer to go frick themselves, and you'd rather experience life than work?
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32711 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 8:08 pm to
get a job where you are comfortable enough to just say "naaah" when they ask you to come in on saturday.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18404 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 8:14 pm to
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I understand you gotta pay your dues at a certain age to live the way you'd like to later on. But at what point do you tell your employer to go frick themselves, and you'd rather experience life than work?


A relative of mine is about to turn 40, and he's lived a fuller life than anyone I've ever known.

He has never been tied down to a job. He works seasonal jobs that pay for his next adventure.

He's explored most of North America. Slept with countless women. Hiked the vast expanse of the Rocky Mountains. Hiked the Appalachian Trail. Fished off the coast of Alaska. Worked some kind of cult resort as their chef. Tended the fields of a marijuana farm in California. Was a surf instructor in Mexico.

He's also spent numerous nights sleeping in his car, rummaging through trash cans, begging for people to take him in for a while, and has no health insurance.

He says that if he gets sick and doesn't get well, he'll die. When he gets old and doesn't want to continue bouncing place to place, he'll settle somewhere and if he starves to death, he starves to death.

Sometimes I envy him.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10046 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 8:16 pm to
When it becomes a problem.

I strongly suggest huge, multi-year work overloads and aggressive savings for walking points and career pauses. A change of scenery with minimal stress and some time off will do anyone good.

If you're skilled, and you don't burn bridges, there will always be a job.
This post was edited on 5/30/14 at 8:18 pm
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129003 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 8:20 pm to
I work to live.



I give my job 100% when I'm there. But the moment I clock out....I don't think about work until I go back to work.


In my field, you will mentally suffer if you start taking work home with you(in your head). You see so much stuff that just breaks your heart, out of necessity you HAVE to learn to distance yourself from it when you leave work. Or you will burn out.



I could never be a workaholic.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 8:22 pm to
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Worked some kind of cult resort as their chef


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260546 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 8:22 pm to
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I work to live.



I give my job 100% when I'm there.


Same here. But the work I do isn't my identity. I'd rather not work, but have to be able to afford the things I do. I'll retire as soon as possible.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67089 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 8:24 pm to
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Worked some kind of cult resort as their chef


He cooked at a Texas A&M dining hall? :rimshot:
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34670 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 8:26 pm to
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I could never be a workaholic


When people say I work for so-and-so, I say "I'm EMPLOYED by so-and-so...I'm working for ME".
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 8:28 pm to
quote:

I understand you gotta pay your dues at a certain age to live the way you'd like to later on. But at what point do you tell your employer to go frick themselves, and you'd rather experience life than work?


If you are single you can do this whenever if you don't like your job and then you can go and look for a new one, if you have a family you need to suck it up and wait until after you have found a new job.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10046 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 8:31 pm to
That's not true at all. I get the tenor, but there are no absolutes.

I just met with a guy not long ago that has two kids, he's taking a year off. He has money saved. I've taken pauses, it's a great thing and can be prepared for.
This post was edited on 5/30/14 at 8:32 pm
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 8:31 pm to
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He says that if he gets sick and doesn't get well, he'll die.


So he is like every other human ever?
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129003 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 8:32 pm to
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But the work I do isn't my identity



Being a nurse is a huge part of my identity I would say. But I'm very proud of what I do. Plus, nursing is a field that typically commands some respect from others. Everyone usually loves nurses.



quote:

I'd rather not work, but have to be able to afford the things I do. I'll retire as soon as possible.



If I ever won a massive lottery payout I def wouldn't continue working fulltime as a nurse. I would say I wouldn't want to work, but I think I would at some point get bored and want to do SOMETHING productive. I'd want to at least keep my license current. Maybe I wouldn't work at the bedside anymore but I would want to do some sort of charity work to help others and would want to use my nursing skills with that if I could(maybe like medical missions, doctors without borders type work).
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 8:33 pm to
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That's not true at all. I get the tenor, but there are no absolutes. I just met with a guy not long ago that has two kids, he's taking a year off. He has money saved.


Well duh! Obviously you can do that if you have a ton if savings.
Posted by trom83
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2013
4724 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

If you are single you can do this whenever if you don't like your job and then you can go and look for a new one, if you have a family you need to suck it up and wait until after you have found a new job.


Gonna have to agree
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10046 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 8:35 pm to
Maybe he does. He can certainly plan for it if he doesn't.

I can tell by his words, the guy is burnt out. I've been there, recently. It's ok to say frick it, from time to time, it feels great.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 8:36 pm to
quote:

When it becomes a problem.


It is THE problem, because work is life right now. At what point do you say 'no future gains are with what I'm losing now?'.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260546 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 8:37 pm to
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If I ever won a massive lottery payout I def wouldn't continue working fulltime as a nurse. I would say I wouldn't want to work, but I think I would at some point get bored and want to do SOMETHING productive.


I'd volunteer, travel, etc. Lots of volunteer opportunities with conservation groups around here I could spend my time and energy, and get a hell of a lot more satisfaction than working.

I've a couple jobs I really really liked, but everything gets old after a while. I've got an older brother who's a CPA that is the total opposite of me.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63322 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 8:42 pm to
If I had my ideal job, I could definitely see living to work.

My general philosophy is to work to live, however.
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
19501 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 8:42 pm to
I'm living to work right now, I worked to live for the past 10 years but now I gotta sprint to make some gains. Where I work right now, everyone stays pissed including the costumers.
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