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This gun control meme came across my FaceBook news feed
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:40 pm
Thoughts?
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:43 pm to Sentrius
Your liberal friends need to research what "militia" meant in the 18th century.
If Burger was right, why doesn't it say "the right of the militia"?
Also ask your fruity friends this: If the founders thought gun ownership should be tied to militias, why didn't they pass gun laws?
If Burger was right, why doesn't it say "the right of the militia"?
Also ask your fruity friends this: If the founders thought gun ownership should be tied to militias, why didn't they pass gun laws?
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:44 pm to Sentrius
I was not aware that a lobby's opinion of an Amendment to the Constitution was one that mattered.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:45 pm to StrangeBrew
quote:what matters is 5 of 9 justices.
I was not aware that a lobby's opinion of an Amendment to the Constitution was one that mattered.
Gun "rights" hang by a thread.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:45 pm to Sentrius
quote:
Thoughts?
Who cares what a retired / dead judge thinks?
The idea that a portion of the bill of rights was written to defend the state is ludicrous IMO.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:46 pm to Sentrius
Pfft. A "state" right in the middle of all those individual rights. Who the phuc organized this $hit country anyway?
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:46 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
Your liberal friends need to research what "militia" meant in the 18th century.
I could literally declare myself a militia and that would be it. My friends and family could declare themselves a militia.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:47 pm to Sentrius
Delete Facebook account. You'll thank me later
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:50 pm to theunknownknight
Using 18th century definitions, the amendment can be written as this: "Because an efficient armed populace is necessary for the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:51 pm to Sentrius
The "gun lobby" doesn't even make that last argument.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:51 pm to Sentrius
the problem the second amendment is that it is in a couple hundred year old document. I think it should still apply, but they didn't write it for modern america. I think the justice is correct about it's original purpose but that isn't a good argument against gun ownership.
edit: here is the text from the 2nd amendment the justice does have a decent point.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
edit: here is the text from the 2nd amendment the justice does have a decent point.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:51 pm to Tigah in the ATL
quote:
what matters is 5 of 9 justices. Gun "rights" hang by a thread.
On a federal level possibly, but the states will not fall into line. What are the Feds going to do withhold funds that are delivered to them by the states? Let the pissing match begin!
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:52 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:don't act like this is a settled issue. The USSC held that belief until like just now.
HailHailtoMichigan
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:53 pm to Sentrius
So a conservative Supreme Court justice was wrong. Liberals don't have a complete monopoly on ignorance.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:53 pm to Sentrius
quote:
Thoughts?
With all due respect for the deceased, if he actually believed this, he didn't know his arse from a hole in the ground.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:54 pm to Tigah in the ATL
quote:I don't regard this institution very highly. They gave us dred scott, Korematsu, plessy, and roe.
USSC
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:56 pm to Sentrius
Before I comment, is this another one of those fake quotes?
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:56 pm to Tigah in the ATL
this issue will never be settled the language isn't specific enough there are ways you can read it that support both sides.
example:
There is no longer a need for militia therefore people don't need weapons.
Example from the other side:
The first part of the amendment only mentions the need for a this amendment, the second part of the amendment states that everyone should have a right to bear and keep arms. Just because the need is lost doesn't mean the amendment no longer applies.
example:
There is no longer a need for militia therefore people don't need weapons.
Example from the other side:
The first part of the amendment only mentions the need for a this amendment, the second part of the amendment states that everyone should have a right to bear and keep arms. Just because the need is lost doesn't mean the amendment no longer applies.
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