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How much do you lose wireless vs. wired

Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:21 am
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:21 am
Just switched from ATT Uverse to COX because i was told it was a faster connection. still seems to be slow. I have the cable going right into the wireless router. I do a speed check and I am getting about 5mbps.

I am running a roku device

2 questions...

1)is there a better way to hook up a roku? is there something that will take the cable directly from the wall? The roku is nothing but a power cord and an HDMI that goes from the device to the TV.

2)what speed internet do i need to have enough speed to not buffer?

Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
77964 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:21 am to
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I do a speed check and I am getting about 5mbps.


What speed are you paying for ?

Wired is always better than Wifi
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 11:24 am
Posted by Iona Fan Man
Member since Jan 2006
27462 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:25 am to
I lost half

wired I was topping out at ~50Mb/sec(35-50 range), unplugged and was topping out at 25(12-25 range)....on the speed tester


Comcast Boost, SF,CA
wireless N router dual band

just tested laptop wireless

This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 11:32 am
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:26 am to
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What speed are you paying for ?


5mbps and getting around 3.5
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
77964 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:27 am to
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5mbps and getting around 3.5



That is going to be tough for streaming HD.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33891 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:27 am to
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I have the cable going right into the wireless router. I do a speed check and I am getting about 5mbps.


Are you saying you're only getting 5 with a wired connection?

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1)is there a better way to hook up a roku? is there something that will take the cable directly from the wall? The roku is nothing but a power cord and an HDMI that goes from the device to the TV.


Roku 3's have an ethernet port.

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what speed internet do i need to have enough speed to not buffer?


For streaming HD (1080) with no issues I like at least 8-10 per device (streaming at the same time). I usually only have 2 devices with a high demand at any time so my 25 service is sufficient.
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 11:28 am
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28707 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:27 am to
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I have the cable going right into the wireless router. I do a speed check and I am getting about 5mbps.

What device are you running the speed test on? The roku?

Try a speedtest via hard wire if possible.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28707 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:28 am to
Oh, so you're only paying for 5mbps? Why did you switch to Cox for the speed, then? Uverse can easily do faster than that.
Posted by Iona Fan Man
Member since Jan 2006
27462 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:32 am to
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Oh, so you're only paying for 5mbps?


maybe 5MBs?
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33891 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:32 am to
And for roughly the same price as cox.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:33 am to
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Are you saying you're only getting 5 with a wired connection?

Yes

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Roku 3's have an ethernet port

that might be what i need to get

quote:

What device are you running the speed test on? The roku

using the ATT website's speed test

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Oh, so you're only paying for 5mbps? Why did you switch to Cox for the speed, then? Uverse can easily do faster than that.

well, I thought that cox was a faster line to begin with. I was paying for 12mbps with ATT and getting about 2. Now i am paying for 5mbps (plus 1 with the power boost) and getting about 3.5. so I am paying less and getting more via Cox.

I guess I need to bump up to the next level of Cox
Posted by bigeztiger
Columbus Ohio
Member since Jul 2011
5092 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:40 am to
I believe wired connections are faster
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28707 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:42 am to
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well, I thought that cox was a faster line to begin with.
It's just that cable is capable of faster speeds than Uverse. You're not going to get more speed than you pay for.
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I was paying for 12mbps with ATT and getting about 2.
If true, that's pretty shitty. Are you sure you were only getting 2Mbps and not 2MBps? Factor of 8 difference there, so if you were getting 2MBps while paying for 12mbps you were getting quite a deal.
quote:

I guess I need to bump up to the next level of Cox
Definitely.

But to answer your title question, you won't lose any speed by using wireless as long as the wireless is faster than your ISP connection. Generally wireless is fine up until you start getting into the 50mbps range. At that point, if you must go wireless, you will need to look into newer/better wireless hardware (802.11ac).
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33891 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:44 am to
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I was paying for 12mbps with ATT and getting about 2.


frick that. You should have raised hell and got them to fix whatever the problem was. I had issues with them for about a month and let every person that worked on it know how pissed I was. After everything was working properly I got about $15-20 a month off my bill for a year.

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I guess I need to bump up to the next level of Cox


Definitely. Also, if you aren't getting what you're promised or at least close to it let them know early and often. We pay too much for rather shitty internet service for these dicks to be getting over on us.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78049 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:44 am to
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I believe wired connections are faster


this is the only correct answer in this thread.

hands down, the only way you'll get consistent data is via wires.

wifi is great, but if you are in a densely populated area, subject to interference, etc.

the only true way to enjoy the cream-de-la-creme internet is wire up your house and use the wireless for guests.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:49 am to
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But to answer your title question, you won't lose any speed by using wireless as long as the wireless is faster than your ISP connection. Generally wireless is fine up until you start getting into the 50mbps range. At that point, if you must go wireless, you will need to look into newer/better wireless hardware (802.11ac).

The problem with the new wireless hardware is that your old devices won't get this speed. So its not a bad investment over the longer term but realize that its probably not going to make much of a difference.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:51 am to
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2Mbps and not 2MBps

I'm really not sure here. I am definitely in the lower internet tiers if that answers the question


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If true, that's pretty shitty. Are you sure you were only getting 2Mbps and not 2MBps


All i know is that when i called Att tech support to discuss the lady said i was "paying for 12 with a minimum of 6", we ran a speed test on the phone and i was getting 2. Her answer on how to correct this was to purchase more speed if I wanted to get more speed.

When I talked to the cancellation department the next day they were great and agreed that the tech support person is generally following a set pathway determined by yes or no answers.

I am starting to see why "cutting the cable cord" can be frustrating as hell
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78049 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 12:06 pm to
biggest problem with wireless is..well..wireless.

try to stream a 1080p movie served off a PC on your local network from another room in the house and tell me how that works out for you.

wireless is "pretty good" "most of the time" but if my movie stutters it pisses me off to no end.

good old cat5/6 never does that to me ever.

so the bottom line is wired > wireless all the time. wireless is 'ok' most of the time.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9339 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 12:07 pm to
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so the bottom line is wired > wireless all the time. wireless is 'ok' most of the time.



Wireless in my house is just for phones and tablets..Everything else is Cat6 to a switch
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 12:07 pm
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 12:23 pm to
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All i know is that when i called Att tech support to discuss the lady said i was "paying for 12 with a minimum of 6", we ran a speed test on the phone and i was getting 2. Her answer on how to correct this was to purchase more speed if I wanted to get more speed.


Going from 5 to 3 is normal, especially if you are not close to your router or there is a wall/floor between you and your device.

12 to 2 is BS. There was definitely a problem there.

Question. Who's router are you using, theirs or your own? It sucks renting a router but the upside is they can never blame your equipment for their craptastic down speeds.
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