Moving on from Ned...whats your opinion on Theon?

its a cowards way out.

ned don't play dat pussy shite.

He confessed

ETA also this

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Ned Stark was kind of a tard. I thought his decision making earlier in the series made that clear.

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If it was someone other than Sean bean playing the character, his perception would be way different. Him and his wife barely had half a brain between them

Well.... Before that he could have opted for trial by combat.

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Well.... Before that he could have opted for trial by combat.

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Well he was stabbed in the leg and had barely ate/drank the past couple days and would've fought the Moutain.....wouldn't of ended well

I don't think you can use a champion unless it's just a laughable affair (like an imp fighting the Moutain). I doubt they would give the same benefit to a former soldier

Ned at 25% vs the mountain has a better chance than Ned's neck vs Ice

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How well do you think that would go with a shattered leg and all?

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This. He could barely walk let alone fight. Even in his prime, Ned was never known for being an exceptional swordsman. Who would have championed him? His guards were all killed. Lord Beric had already been attacked by the Mountain. He would have had to call someone from the north and cersei would never have been patient enough to allow that.

He confessed because he was told that he would live out his days at the wall i he did so. He would never be more than a couple nights' ride from his wife and children, he would serve with his bastard son and his brother, and he would see his son inherit Winterfell while still being able to give Rob counsel if sought. Plus, he'd be serving under Jeor Mormont, a close personal friend.

The wall really wasn't that bad of a fate for Ned Stark.

Which would be who?


All of his allies were either fled, dead, or a 1000 leagues away.


And I think I stand with Ned on that front of the honor code: he would frown against sending someone else to risk their lives for his sake.

Who can stand against either Jaime or Gregor?

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He confessed because he was told that he would live out his days at the wall i he did so. He would never be more than a couple nights' ride from his wife and children, he would serve with his bastard son and his brother, and he would see his son inherit Winterfell while still being able to give Rob counsel if sought. Plus, he'd be serving under Jeor Mormont, a close personal friend.

The wall really wasn't that bad of a fate for Ned Stark.

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Ned at 25% vs the mountain has a better chance than Ned's neck vs Ice

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Ned was given the option of going to the Wall. Joffrey broke his end of the deal though and just lied to Ned. If you lose a trial by combat, it's guaranteed death, no wall or other punishment.