re: X-Men Days of Future Past Thoughts and Reviews (With Spoilers)

saw it tonight, really liked it. I don't know why the hate for the old cast, I like both the old and young versions of prof x and magneto.

though I don't really see how any of the events of X1 or x2 would take place in this new universe, Magneto and mystique clearly aren't on the same side, the relationship between professor x and her was never mentioned in those movies, etc. I guess they'll have to continue to try and tie up some loose ends in the next one.

All in all probably a top 5-10 comic book movie.

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I don't know why the hate for the old cast,

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I'll give you my response to that.

Old and underutilized honestly. A new cast isn't really about REPLACING anyone, it's more about starting fresh. They've just locked themselves into a certain pattern that doesn't resonate with the original characters.

I think Marsden is actually a good choice....if they would let him grow as a character, but they don't. Same for Berry and Janssen.

I do NOT, however, like Sookie or Ashmore. Iceman is FAR too dull in these movies. He has no personality and it's annoying because he's one of the most fun X-Men. And Rogue....ugh, not enough spunk, again, way too emo. Iceman is a jokester, prankster, he doesn't take anything seriously, and he always feels like he isn't powerful enough when he is. He's a great tragic character that continuously holds himself back. Rogue has a ton of attitude and she's intense. They played up the tragic part of her story without balancing it out with her ability to plow ahead and be stubborn. She's just so passive in the movies.

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I like both the old and young versions of prof x and magneto.

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Honestly, they are just too old now, at least McKellan is.

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I'd agree that Fassbender is a better magneto due to age,

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He's also set to become massively expensive in the near future, that's my worry.

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but while Mcavoy is an awesome professor x so is Patrick Stewart. I wouldn't mind keeping him around in some capacity.

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I do, but he's just so old, you can tell they use GI to smooth his face in every scene he's in and it's jarring.

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they proved you wrong on the wolverine being too central of a character in this movie,

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They made one movie without him as central to the plot, so while they took a step in the right direction, we shall see what happens with Apocalypse. Granted, Jackman's run as Wolverine is second only to RDJ as Stark in terms of pure effectiveness, but still...

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why not give them a shot with this as well? Maybe singer also feels he's under-utilized cyclops as well?

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Maybe, and there are enough storylines that they could reset at almost any point they wanted, I just hope they do.

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I never really read the comics so I don't have the same passion for some of the characters you seem to though so I'm not all that bothered by some of the missteps.

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It's just untapped potential, as much shite as I give him, Singer has done fine. He made the new slate of Comic book movies bankable after the crap of later Batman;s (read:Batman and Robin).

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I think it was more of a bold move for the studio to go this route rather than blow it up and reboot.

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I think it was the safe route, the bold route would have been to recast. And Jackman has already said he's only got 1 more solo outing as Wolverine left in him so we get him in Apocalypse and the next Wolverine and that may be it. Unless he just keeps doing team ups.

Before DOFP I was very very wary of Apocalypse. After seeing DOFP, not so much. I just wish they would have gone another direction. I think it will be another solid Singer outing with familiar story lines, a focus on the same central core of characters, and the same missteps that have permeated since X1. This doesn't mean a bad film, it means probably a pretty good film, maybe even near great film. But it does mean that most characters will see their identities stagnant again.

DOFP should have been two movies, that was the other way to go somewhere different.

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I just personally enjoyed AS2 more. Can't really explain why, I like the heroes more though I think James McAvoy is amazing as a young Xavier and was amazing in this movie and Fassbender was really good. i thought the centralized Mystique plot was not very good though and I didn't think Lawrence held up her end of the movie.

I'm not taking a shite on this movie, I still thought it was solid but I thoroughly enjoyed Amazing Spiderman 2 which I didn't for DoFP.

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All of this. There's a ton of "follow the critics" groupthink when it comes to ASM2. Comparing it to SM3 is a joke. SO MANY VILLAINS OMG. Except there weren't. There was one main villain for 80% of the movie. A secondary villain who shows up after the first for 19% of the movie. And a 3rd villain who shows up to do nothing other than hype the 3rd film. I was emotionally invested in ASM2 more.

McAvoy stole this show for me. He had a bunch of talent around him, and I left the theater thinking McAvoy just acted circles around the rest of the cast. In the end though, it's the same Marvel/Disney formula. They are only willing to get so dark in these movies and that detracts away from the movies some for me. I will by no means complain about this movie. I was entertained for over 2 hours and that's all I can ask. I just didn't leave the theater as pumped as I did for ASM2.

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this I can agree on. You could have spent more time in the future and given a larger role for guys like Bishop.

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He looked like a terrible Bishop, I'm ok with them not exploring him much He suffered the same fate as most side characters in X-Movies...
"Oh here's my cool powers, and facial expressions and two or three lines of dialog." Done.

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I don't know, I wouldn't describe the task they undertook with DOFP safe.

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You mean keeping the same soon to be more expensive, and extremely popular casts, and one (or even three) of the most iconic versions of a beloved character ever put on screen? Using one of Hollywood's Top 10 leading men and maybe its fastest rising young actress yet again is risky? (I assume they don't leave the Jennifer Lawrence train, but there is a pretty good chance they do just by necessity).

Here is what I posted on page 4:

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Here was my perfect end:

We wake up with a POV camera from a bed we look at the clock, hear the music (we don't know who we are). Start to walk down the hall, the camera catches a glimpse of ruby glasses, a blur of silver hair, people that we don't know passing. Maybe a blue furry hand, etc. On the door of an office we see a note that says "Hank wanted me to tell you that your bike is fixed. -Jean" The hand drops the note, looks down...

SNIKT! Metal claws pop out.

Then a faint voice rises, British, older.. "Logan, I felt a ripple when you awoke this morning, one that told me this morning is different. Come to my office, we have much to discuss."

FADE TO BLACK

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McAvoy stole this show for me. He had a bunch of talent around him, and I left the theater thinking McAvoy just acted circles around the rest of the cast.

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I'd agree with this, he had the most to do.

it was a big project that they invested heavily in, so yeah there was a good bit of risk involved here vs. a total reboot with no name actors that if it flops it flops.

if this movie bombed it was going to hurt

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All of this. There's a ton of "follow the critics" groupthink when it comes to ASM2. Comparing it to SM3 is a joke. SO MANY VILLAINS OMG. Except there weren't. There was one main villain for 80% of the movie. A secondary villain who shows up after the first for 19% of the movie. And a 3rd villain who shows up to do nothing other than hype the 3rd film. I was emotionally invested in ASM2 more.

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But there wasn't a plot. It was just Spider-Man pissing people off for no real reason and then they do something at the end. Seriously, why not give the blood to his so-called best friend in order for him to survive? Electro had 0 motive for going after Spider-Man. Things just conveniently happened.

This film had a very easy to identify plot, we know the character's motives, there's a clear arc, and we know the consequences if they failed.

Nice stealth spoiler.

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So does this mean that Mystique was the one that put the adamantium in Wolverine in the first place?

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That was odd to me as well. It made more sense for it to really be Stryker taking Wolverine's body.