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Oregon gay marriage ban struck down yesterday, Pennsylvania's today
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:44 pm
Oregon becomes Marriage Equality State No. 18 as the state refuses to appeal the ruling. And as Pennsylvania's governor tests the political winds on whether to appeal its ruling, couples got married all across the state today.
This continues a juggernaut that began in December. In the last six months, federal courts have struck down gay marriage bans in Utah, Oklahoma, Texas, Virginia, Michigan, Idaho, Oregon, and Pennsylvania. A state court has struck down the ban in Arkansas. And federal courts have ruled that Tennessee, Kentucky, and Ohio must recognize same sex marriages performed in other states.
The federal judge that struck down Pennsylvania's ban, a George W. Bush appointee said it was time to throw these laws into "the ash heap of history". They have ALL been unanimous in stating that the only reasons these laws were enacted was out of animus toward a persecuted minority and that they are unconstitutional (violating the Equal Protection Clause).
Several of you have complained about these "activist judges" when it comes to this. Don't you think it's time to revisit this? I mean they ALL can't be "activist judges" can they? These judges were appointed almost equally from both Republican and Democratic Presidents.
This continues a juggernaut that began in December. In the last six months, federal courts have struck down gay marriage bans in Utah, Oklahoma, Texas, Virginia, Michigan, Idaho, Oregon, and Pennsylvania. A state court has struck down the ban in Arkansas. And federal courts have ruled that Tennessee, Kentucky, and Ohio must recognize same sex marriages performed in other states.
The federal judge that struck down Pennsylvania's ban, a George W. Bush appointee said it was time to throw these laws into "the ash heap of history". They have ALL been unanimous in stating that the only reasons these laws were enacted was out of animus toward a persecuted minority and that they are unconstitutional (violating the Equal Protection Clause).
Several of you have complained about these "activist judges" when it comes to this. Don't you think it's time to revisit this? I mean they ALL can't be "activist judges" can they? These judges were appointed almost equally from both Republican and Democratic Presidents.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:47 pm to Toddy
So George Bush gets the credit, right???
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:48 pm to Toddy
Toddy, why do you insist on calling it marriage equality when it really is just making gay marriage more equal than other types of marriages that are currently illegal?
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:49 pm to fleaux
Bush appointee righting the wrongs perpetrated by blue state voters.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:53 pm to Toddy
I think you guys have the right to be just as miserable as the rest of us.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:54 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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why do you insist on calling it marriage equality when it really is just making gay marriage more equal than other types of marriages that are currently illegal?
Are you being serious?
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:56 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
strong rebuttal
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:01 pm to Toddy
quote:
Several of you have complained about these "activist judges" when it comes to this. Don't you think it's time to revisit this?
revisit what?
i'm all for gay marriage, but if the courts are cherry picking "persecuted minority" groups, they need to finish this line of thought and not stop at just gays. this applies to activists, politicians, etc as well.
you do realize how unstable of a system this creates? we're basically inventing groups that receive special judicial protections...just because. that's not a stable system.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i'm all for gay marriage, but if the courts are cherry picking "persecuted minority" groups, they need to finish this line of thought and not stop at just gays. this applies to activists, politicians, etc as well.
you do realize how unstable of a system this creates? we're basically inventing groups that receive special judicial protections...just because. that's not a stable system.
All of this.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:07 pm to Toddy
quote:
Several of you have complained about these "activist judges" when it comes to this. Don't you think it's time to revisit this? I mean they ALL can't be "activist judges" can they? These judges were appointed almost equally from both Republican and Democratic Presidents.
They are a bunch of cowards that are afraid their "legacy" will be tainted by being "on the wrong side of history"
I know it, you know it, admit it.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:09 pm to MagicCityBlazer
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Are you being serious?
States aren't being forced to recognize first cousin marriages.
That means "persecuting" Alabama fans is constitutional but "persecuting" same sex couples is bigotry. Makes no logical sense.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:11 pm to Toddy
America is in great decline, morally and otherwise.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:13 pm to Toddy
The Judiciary has been politicized, and no one is really arguing that it hasn't. No one being honest really thinks the SCOTUS would have SO MANY 5-4 decisions if they WERE REALLY adjudicating the laws of the land as they were written.
Admit it, the judge appointments have went away from being apppinted on their great jurisprudence, and went the way of partisanship.
So, why should we as a country have a few partisans deciding our laws, over the majaroty of many?
Lets admit it, seeing as how the judges are now nothing more than partisans, then either they don't need to wield so much power, being nothing more than a political hack, OR WE NEED A DIFFERENT WAY TO NOMINATE OUR JUDGES.
Admit it, the judge appointments have went away from being apppinted on their great jurisprudence, and went the way of partisanship.
So, why should we as a country have a few partisans deciding our laws, over the majaroty of many?
Lets admit it, seeing as how the judges are now nothing more than partisans, then either they don't need to wield so much power, being nothing more than a political hack, OR WE NEED A DIFFERENT WAY TO NOMINATE OUR JUDGES.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:15 pm to Toddy
What are you going to post about and base your vote when gay marriage is no longer and issue and legal in all 50 states?
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:18 pm to Toddy
I fully support a particular state deciding....either for our against, arent you, Toddy?
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:23 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Toddy, why do you insist on calling it marriage equality when it really is just making gay marriage more equal than other types of marriages that are currently illegal?
Whoa.
This is just giving gays the right to marry, that's all.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:26 pm to Toddy
quote:I'm shocked Oregon still had a gay marriage ban. That's a very liberal state.
Oregon gay marriage ban struck down yesterday
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