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Oregon gay marriage ban struck down yesterday, Pennsylvania's today

Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:44 pm
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:44 pm
Oregon becomes Marriage Equality State No. 18 as the state refuses to appeal the ruling. And as Pennsylvania's governor tests the political winds on whether to appeal its ruling, couples got married all across the state today.

This continues a juggernaut that began in December. In the last six months, federal courts have struck down gay marriage bans in Utah, Oklahoma, Texas, Virginia, Michigan, Idaho, Oregon, and Pennsylvania. A state court has struck down the ban in Arkansas. And federal courts have ruled that Tennessee, Kentucky, and Ohio must recognize same sex marriages performed in other states.

The federal judge that struck down Pennsylvania's ban, a George W. Bush appointee said it was time to throw these laws into "the ash heap of history". They have ALL been unanimous in stating that the only reasons these laws were enacted was out of animus toward a persecuted minority and that they are unconstitutional (violating the Equal Protection Clause).

Several of you have complained about these "activist judges" when it comes to this. Don't you think it's time to revisit this? I mean they ALL can't be "activist judges" can they? These judges were appointed almost equally from both Republican and Democratic Presidents.
Posted by fleaux
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:47 pm to
So George Bush gets the credit, right???
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:47 pm to
Nobody cares.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69313 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:48 pm to
Toddy, why do you insist on calling it marriage equality when it really is just making gay marriage more equal than other types of marriages that are currently illegal?
Posted by TheFolker
Member since Aug 2011
5185 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:49 pm to
Bush appointee righting the wrongs perpetrated by blue state voters.
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:51 pm to
Gay;dr
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:53 pm to
I think you guys have the right to be just as miserable as the rest of us.
Posted by MagicCityBlazer
Member since Nov 2010
3686 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:54 pm to
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why do you insist on calling it marriage equality when it really is just making gay marriage more equal than other types of marriages that are currently illegal?


Are you being serious?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:56 pm to
strong rebuttal
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

Several of you have complained about these "activist judges" when it comes to this. Don't you think it's time to revisit this?

revisit what?

i'm all for gay marriage, but if the courts are cherry picking "persecuted minority" groups, they need to finish this line of thought and not stop at just gays. this applies to activists, politicians, etc as well.

you do realize how unstable of a system this creates? we're basically inventing groups that receive special judicial protections...just because. that's not a stable system.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
28264 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:07 pm to
quote:


i'm all for gay marriage, but if the courts are cherry picking "persecuted minority" groups, they need to finish this line of thought and not stop at just gays. this applies to activists, politicians, etc as well.

you do realize how unstable of a system this creates? we're basically inventing groups that receive special judicial protections...just because. that's not a stable system.


All of this.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23198 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:07 pm to
quote:

Several of you have complained about these "activist judges" when it comes to this. Don't you think it's time to revisit this? I mean they ALL can't be "activist judges" can they? These judges were appointed almost equally from both Republican and Democratic Presidents.


They are a bunch of cowards that are afraid their "legacy" will be tainted by being "on the wrong side of history"

I know it, you know it, admit it.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
71177 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:09 pm to
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Are you being serious?


States aren't being forced to recognize first cousin marriages.

That means "persecuting" Alabama fans is constitutional but "persecuting" same sex couples is bigotry. Makes no logical sense.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119244 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:11 pm to
America is in great decline, morally and otherwise.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:13 pm to
The Judiciary has been politicized, and no one is really arguing that it hasn't. No one being honest really thinks the SCOTUS would have SO MANY 5-4 decisions if they WERE REALLY adjudicating the laws of the land as they were written.

Admit it, the judge appointments have went away from being apppinted on their great jurisprudence, and went the way of partisanship.

So, why should we as a country have a few partisans deciding our laws, over the majaroty of many?


Lets admit it, seeing as how the judges are now nothing more than partisans, then either they don't need to wield so much power, being nothing more than a political hack, OR WE NEED A DIFFERENT WAY TO NOMINATE OUR JUDGES.




Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53177 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:15 pm to
What are you going to post about and base your vote when gay marriage is no longer and issue and legal in all 50 states?
Posted by DevilDogTiger
RTWFY!
Member since Nov 2007
6365 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:16 pm to
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Nobody cares.
Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:18 pm to
I fully support a particular state deciding....either for our against, arent you, Toddy?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:23 pm to
quote:

Toddy, why do you insist on calling it marriage equality when it really is just making gay marriage more equal than other types of marriages that are currently illegal?


Whoa.

This is just giving gays the right to marry, that's all.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61309 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:26 pm to
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Oregon gay marriage ban struck down yesterday
I'm shocked Oregon still had a gay marriage ban. That's a very liberal state.
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