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Mistborn Trilogy Update - Book Two Spoilers ONLY

Posted on 5/20/14 at 5:15 pm
Posted by FootballNostradamus
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 5:15 pm
Hmmm, well that was interesting. I can't say I loved it as much as the first, but it was definitely a solid follow-up. Sanderson clearly has one hell of an imagination. Overall thoughts:

-Probably a little slow for my taste. Granted this is coming from someone who enjoys Rothfuss's molasses pace, but it just seemed like this segment dragged a bit. I guess that's understandable given the entire book essentially revolves around a siege, but yea it was a tad slow.

-I did like that you see the turmoil that so often takes place when a system (even a ruthless, tyranical system) is removed. So othen the movie ends with the evil dictator overthrown and no thought to WTF we're gonna do now. This sort of reminded me of US occupation in the Middle East. Tyrannical, ruthless dictators rooted in religious lore being overthrown by a superior military force and a population not really knowing how to adjust. Thought that was pretty interesting.

-Really think this book needed more of the Lord Ruler's presence. I hope they're able to delve into his origins more in the third. He was such an awesome character in the first, it sucks he had to go so quickly. The story needs a central antagonist. The mists or "the deepness" are too vague and Straff/Cett were solid but nothing near the Lord Ruler.

-I was really nervous Zane was gonna turn this storyline into some awful Vampire/Warewolf teenybopper love triangel, but in the end I liked his addition to the story. I did, however, think his death was total and utter bullshite. She concentrated really hard and only reacted so she saw him seeing her move and thus adjusted her swing? That's ridiculous and makes no sense. It didn't say alumium or whatever the metal is called shows what you think you're going to do. It says it shows what you're going to do. Thus it would have shown him that she was going to change direction. They shoulda found a better way to kill him.

-OreSeur was an awesome addition to the crew, can't wait to see what actually happens to one of these kandras when they're "destroyed". I did, however, think they were a little non-shalant about not knowing who the kandra in the crew was. Seems like they were awful "o well, we'll find out when we get around to it" about the whole thing. Granted Idk if I ever would have suspected OreSeur, but I would have been a man on a mission to find out.

-Per the usual, Sazed is a total BAMF. I think his character's possibilities are endless. I also think he has to know something about this Well and its possibilities. Him sending Vin and Elend away makes zero sense. They have established that these Koloss don't attack in coordinated methods and don't work together. If Vin is in beastmode with unlimited metals she could definitely just stay on the outskirts and kill the whole damn army. I think he had to know something.

-Totally forgot about Marsh. I really hope they go into whatever happened to him in that temple that's turned him into this freak. He seems like he's in the same state as the koloss. He's being controlled but still aware of his thoughts, to an extent. Also, in the dumbest most reoccuring sequence in every fictional work of all-time, when you knock the badguy out, KILL HIM INSTEAD OF RUNNING AWAY YOU IDIOTS! I'm sure Marsh is going to recover and wreck shite on our crew next book.

-The Well scene was surprising. Seems this power is something the Lord Ruler was supressing and fighting constantly and Vin released it? I'm going to assume this is initially seen as a bad thing and everything goes to hell, but in the end the only way to truly defeat whatever this evil is will be to release it as opposed to containing it so we shall see if Vin is able to do this.

-I assume the mists and the ash is about to get out of control. This is something I'm curious about as well. No one seems to discuss or mention the connection between the mists and the ash. Maybe it's so natural for them to assume that ash falls from the sky in their world, but I'm hoping they expand upon why this is the case.

Third book is going to be insane! So much shite has to happen! Again, thanks to all who recommended it!
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 8:07 pm
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 5:29 pm to
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-OreSeur was an awesome addition to the crew, can't wait to see what actually happens to one of these kandras when they're "destroyed". I did, however, think they were a little non-shalant about not knowing who the kandra in the crew was. Seems like they were awful "o well, we'll find out when we get around to it" about the whole thing. Granted Idk if I ever would have suspected OreSeur, but I would have been a man on a mission to find out.


He comes out of nowhere and becomes just a great sidekick character. More to come on him.

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-Per the usual, Sazed is a total BAMF. I think his character's possibilities are endless. I also think he has to know something about this Well and its possibilities. Him sending Vin and Elend away makes zero sense. They have established that these Koloss don't attack in coordinated methods and don't work together. If Vin is in beastmode with unlimited metals she could definitely just stay on the outskirts and kill the whole damn army. I think he had to know something.


Just saving this comment for later.

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Posted by fouldeliverer
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 5:42 pm to
When you finish go to Sanderson website to read his annotations
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 6:14 pm to
didnt read your post for fear of spoilers, but I just finished the 2nd book. didnt enjoy it as much as the first. still awesome though. i'm excited to see what elend will be like as a mistborn. sucks losing clubs, he was a favorite of mine. Dockson seemed to be written out almost, so losing him was fine. The kandra thing fooled me, as I had really grown to like "Oreseur" and his relationship with Vin and didnt even think of him...I'm excited to see what will happen in the 3rd book, it should be here tomorrow, so I will try to resist reading this thread until I finish.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 6:37 pm to
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didnt read your post for fear of spoilers, but I just finished the 2nd book. didnt enjoy it as much as the first. still awesome though. i'm excited to see what elend will be like as a mistborn. sucks losing clubs, he was a favorite of mine. Dockson seemed to be written out almost, so losing him was fine. The kandra thing fooled me, as I had really grown to like "Oreseur" and his relationship with Vin and didnt even think of him...I'm excited to see what will happen in the 3rd book, it should be here tomorrow, so I will try to resist reading this thread until I finish.


Yea I've got no spoilers in mine as I've only finished the first two books as well. The guys have been really good so far about not spoiling anything, but I know I get nervous reading them sometimes as well in case someone drops something haha.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 6:38 pm to
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When you finish go to Sanderson website to read his annotations


Good call, didn't even think of this!
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 6:43 pm to
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He comes out of nowhere and becomes just a great sidekick character. More to come on him.


He really does.

I think one of Sanderson's biggest strengths is his ability to create support characters. Ham and Sazed and Clubs and OreSeur are the ones who really make the stories. Hell even Reen or whatever her brother's name is feels like a real part of the story.

To be honest, I'm not in love with either Vin or Elend.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:11 pm to
your first sentence scared me ...you have third in the OP...did you mean 1st?

sazed is a fricking boss, no doubt. love how his role has increased throughout. Marsh pisses me off, I guess the steel ministry slowly wears on you over time.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:15 pm to
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To be honest, I'm not in love with either Vin or Elend.


Vin is annoying but I dig Elend. He's a great character really. Not as good as Sazed, but close enough to matter.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
24043 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:23 pm to
yeah, i love elend...i can relate to his personality well. I love Vin too though. Her womaness is annoying, i.e. the whole Zane drama, but I love how she has grown. I just wish she would accept that the "gown" vin can be same vin as the "mistborn" vin.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:08 pm to
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your first sentence scared me ...you have third in the OP...did you mean 1st?


Yea, brainfart.

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sazed is a fricking boss, no doubt. love how his role has increased throughout. Marsh pisses me off, I guess the steel ministry slowly wears on you over time.


Yea I'm usually pretty good about not losing characters, but I completely forgot about Marsh until the end.

I think there has to be something more to him, though. I don't think he just "gave in" to the steel ministry, ya know? They did something to him, and I'm very curious to see what it was.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
24043 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 10:26 am to
Just finished the third book....spoilers below.




































Ended pretty well, I suppose. I felt like Elend and Vin were outside of Fadrex City for 3/4 of the book. Sazed pouting around most of the book was disappointing as well, though I guess I understand why. Loved Spook's and Tensoon's storyline. The kandra and atium thing was clever. Also, plus rep to Marsh for breaking Ruin's grasp for that split second. I knew the earring would come into play eventually.


Sazed ending up as the God was fitting, and I liked how the Ruin and Vin storyline played out. Overall, it was a great series, but didn't end as strongly as I thought it would.

Think I'll be reading "Name of the Wind" next.
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 10:28 am
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 10:36 am to
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Think I'll be reading "Name of the Wind" next.



It's my duty to post this in every Sanderson thread:



quote:

Steelheart is the story of a world full of superheroes who are called Epics. Or actually, supervillains. They took over the world with their powers and rule cities like Newcago, where ordinary people try to survive. One such supervillain is Steelheart, an Epic with invincible powers, who killed the father of an average teenager named David. But every Epic has his own weakness, and it's David's goal to find Steelheart's weakness and take revenge for the murder of his father. But in order to succeed he must join the Reckoners, a group of citizens that banded together to assassinate Epics. David has something valuable to offer; not a weapon but an experience. He has seen Steelheart bleed.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 11:45 am to
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Steelheart


NEVER LET YOU GO!!!!!!
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19350 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 7:50 pm to
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It's my duty to post this in every Sanderson thread

I just finished The Wise Man's Fear and was looking for something new to read. I have really enjoyed all of sandersons's stuff, although I was disappointed by book 3 of mistborn. I will be checking this out.
Posted by Meursault
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Member since Sep 2003
25172 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 10:14 pm to
Great series, got me into Sanderson's stuff!

I'm currently halfway through Way of Kings, and I don't know what the frick is going on!
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