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As NASA seeks next mission, Russia holds the trump card
Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:58 pm
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Such is today’s space Realpolitik that, while the United States paid for most of the $140 billion space station, launched nearly all of it into orbit, and controls most of its day-to-day operations from Houston, Russia still holds the trump card: access.
“They have us right where they want us,” said three-time NASA astronaut Mike Coats.
The mounting Ukraine crisis has highlighted the space agency’s vulnerability, but this state of affairs is not new. Russia began embracing NASA in a bear hug right after the space shuttle retired in 2011.
Former Johnson Space Center Director Mike Coats discusses NASA’s relationship with Russia.
Since that time Russia has substantially hiked the price of a trip to the International Space Station, to $71 million per seat. Less well recognized is the disparity in station crews. Before the shuttle stopped flying, an equal number of American and Russian crew members lived on board. But afterwards the bear began squeezing. For every two NASA astronauts that have flown to the station, three Russians have gone.
NASA doesn’t advertise this, of course. It’s an embarrassing reminder to the country’s political leadership of how their legislative vagaries have cast the space agency adrift.
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“Astronaut to cosmonaut, scientist to scientist, engineer to engineer, we’ve had a wonderful working relationship with the Russians,” he said. “But politically, if they see an opportunity to exercise an advantage they have to do it. It’s in their makeup. They view weakness as something to be taken advantage of.
“It’s difficult dealing with Russians from a position of weakness, and we’re doing that.”
Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:58 pm to wickowick
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During the 1960s America taught the Soviet Union a thing or two about spaceflight, and in the process helped establish democracy as superior to totalitarianism in the global mind.
Four decades after crushing the Soviet space program, however, the urgency reflected in the race to the moon has dissipated. Now, NASA is reduced to timidly paying Russia about $300 million annually for the privilege of flying its astronauts, packed like sardines, in cramped Soyuz spacecraft to the International Space Station. During their nearly three years of training for an ISS mission, U.S. astronauts now must spend as much as half that time away from home, principally in Russia.
It didn’t have to be this way.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:11 pm to wickowick
When is our new space vehicle going into service?
Posted on 5/19/14 at 10:12 pm to wickowick
What an embarrassment. I was worried this would happen.
As an aside... Eric Berger is legit. Enjoyed reading him when I lived in Houston... and still try to catch his blogs. His tropical storm coverage is some of the best you will find.
As an aside... Eric Berger is legit. Enjoyed reading him when I lived in Houston... and still try to catch his blogs. His tropical storm coverage is some of the best you will find.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 11:34 pm to wickowick
Obama thinks space travel is less important than subsidizing irresponsible people. It's pathetic. Russia is overtaking us in this field, but it's all good, because a Virginia Beach doghead freak has the fed government subsidizing part of his health insurance.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 12:08 am to wickowick
I would have been ok with NASA funding cuts if other areas had also taken huge hits and we used this time as an opportunity to get spending under control. Instead, we wiped out our space program and diverted funds to areas of no return while increasing spending overall.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:24 am to SG_Geaux
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Thanks Obama
As well as all the administrations before him. I'm not an Obama fan but a lot of other presidents shoulder this blame.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 7:46 am to LSUGrrrl
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I would have been ok with NASA funding cuts if other areas had also taken huge hits and we used this time as an opportunity to get spending under control. Instead, we wiped out our space program and diverted funds to areas of no return while increasing spending overall.
NASA was one of the only programs that Obama cut in his first term...
War on Science...
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:34 am to jmarto1
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As well as all the administrations before him. I'm not an Obama fan but a lot of other presidents shoulder this blame.
This. NASA has had major issues getting funding since the end of the Apollo program (and even before then when there were calls to cancel some of the later moon missions once we beat the Soviets).
Posted on 5/20/14 at 8:42 am to Wally Sparks
I think I'm gonna go back to school and get my rocket science degree so I can go unfrick this mess.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 12:00 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
per NASA:
The rocket is scheduled for its first mission, Exploration Mission 1, in 2017 at which time it will launch an uncrewed Orion spacecraft. The mission's goal is to demonstrate the integrated system performance of the SLS rocket and spacecraft before a crewed flight in 2021.
The rocket is scheduled for its first mission, Exploration Mission 1, in 2017 at which time it will launch an uncrewed Orion spacecraft. The mission's goal is to demonstrate the integrated system performance of the SLS rocket and spacecraft before a crewed flight in 2021.
Posted on 5/20/14 at 12:30 pm to lsu68
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The mission's goal is to demonstrate the integrated system performance of the SLS rocket and spacecraft before a crewed flight in 2021.
What a fricking joke. We need to stop being pussies and take some damn risks. This pussyfooting around is the reason NASA gets no money. Unmanned missions don't excite taxpayers. Politicians aren't going to give NASA money to keep sending up robots.
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