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Liberals' Dark Ages

Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:52 am
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:52 am
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Welcome to the Dark Ages, Part II. We have slipped into an age of un-enlightenment where you fall in line behind the mob or face the consequences.

How ironic that the persecutors this time around are the so-called intellectuals. They claim to be liberal while behaving as anything but. The touchstone of liberalism is tolerance of differing ideas. Yet this mob exists to enforce conformity of thought and to delegitimize any dissent from its sanctioned worldview. Intolerance is its calling card.

Each week seems to bring another incident. Last week it was David and Jason Benham, whose pending HGTV show was canceled after the mob unearthed old remarks the brothers made about their Christian beliefs on homosexuality. People can't have a house-flipping show unless they believe and say the "right" things in their life off the set? In this world, the conservative Tom Selleck never would have been Magnum, P.I.

This week, a trail-blazing woman was felled in the new tradition of commencement shaming. International Monetary Fund Managing Director Christine Lagarde withdrew from delivering the commencement speech at Smith College following protests from students and faculty who hate the IMF. According to the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education, this trend is growing. In the 21 years leading up to 2009, there were 21 incidents of an invited guest not speaking because of protests. Yet, in the past five-and-a-half years, there have been 39 cancellations.

Don't bother trying to make sense of what beliefs are permitted and which ones will get you strung up in the town square. Our ideological overlords have created a minefield of inconsistency. While criticizing Islam is intolerant, insulting Christianity is sport. Ayaan Hirsi Ali is persona non grata at Brandeis University for attacking the prophet Mohammed. But Richard Dawkins describes the Old Testament God as "a misogynistic … sadomasochistic … malevolent bully" and the mob yawns. Bill Maher calls the same God a "psychotic mass murderer" and there are no boycott demands of the high-profile liberals who traffic his HBO show.

The self-serving capriciousness is crazy. In March, University of California-Santa Barbara women's studies professor Mireille Miller-Young attacked a 16-year-old holding an anti-abortion sign in the campus' "free speech zone" (formerly known as America). Though she was charged with theft, battery and vandalism, Miller-Young remains unrepentant and still has her job. But Mozilla's Brendan Eich gave a private donation to an anti-gay marriage initiative six years ago and was ordered to recant his beliefs. When he wouldn't, he was forced to resign from the company he helped found.

Got that? A college educator with the right opinions can attack a high school student and keep her job. A corporate executive with the wrong opinions loses his for making a campaign donation. Something is very wrong here.

As the mob gleefully destroys people's lives, its members haven't stopped to ask themselves a basic question: What happens when they come for me? If history is any guide, that's how these things usually end.


boom
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:55 am to
I hate to do this as I generally agree with you but....

cliff notes?
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:55 am to


What a silly article.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:58 am to
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The self-serving capriciousness is crazy. In March, University of California-Santa Barbara women's studies professor Mireille Miller-Young attacked a 16-year-old holding an anti-abortion sign in the campus' "free speech zone" (formerly known as America). Though she was charged with theft, battery and vandalism, Miller-Young remains unrepentant and still has her job. But Mozilla's Brendan Eich gave a private donation to an anti-gay marriage initiative six years ago and was ordered to recant his beliefs. When he wouldn't, he was forced to resign from the company he helped found.

Got that? A college educator with the right opinions can attack a high school student and keep her job. A corporate executive with the wrong opinions loses his for making a campaign donation. Something is very wrong here.


She has a point.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118758 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:58 am to
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cliff notes?


quote:

As the mob gleefully destroys people's lives, its members haven't stopped to ask themselves a basic question: What happens when they come for me? If history is any guide, that's how these things usually end.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23305 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:58 am to
Very spot on. The hypocrisy is astounding and likely won't end anytime soon.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:59 am to
There are two different issues at play here. There is the silencing of unpopular opinions due to market forces. This is how free markets work. Its good to see functioning free markets IMHO, unless you hate capitalism.

Then there is the academic thing. Differing ideas are at the core of academia. I am a fan of hegel, and you can only get to the truth via the dialectic of ideas. And to shut down different ideas in a safe setting is just terrible, and we will pay the price for that IMHO. Graduates will be short changed, and employers will get shitty employees who cannot articulate their ideas.

Posted by fleaux
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:59 am to
Which part did you disagree with?
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
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Member since May 2004
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:02 pm to
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What a silly article.



What's silly is that it's true. No doubt this line of thinking is what's going to be this country's downfall.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:03 pm to
liberalism is a mental disorder
Posted by Clete Purcel
Jennings, LA
Member since Oct 2013
145 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:04 pm to
Why is it silly? The op ed piece is bringing up the inconsistencies we see today.

Our President said the following:

quote:

Barack Obama at UN: "The future does not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam."


Why is it okay to slander the Christian God? From Wiki:

quote:

Piss Christ is a 1987 photograph by the American artist and photographer Andres Serrano. It depicts a small plastic crucifix submerged in a glass of the artist's urine. The piece was a winner of the Southeastern Center for Contemporary Art's "Awards in the Visual Arts" competition,[1] which was sponsored in part by the National Endowment for the Arts, a United States Government agency that offers support and funding for artistic projects, without controlling content.


Would we ever see the same thing done to the prophet of Islam funded by taxpayer dollars? I'm thinking no. No we wouldn't.
Posted by Rex
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:04 pm to
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She has a point.

No, she doesn't... unless you're silly enough to think UC-Santa Barbara and Mozilla are the same institutions.
Posted by KCT
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:04 pm to
One of the best and most timely posts I've read in a long time, GumboPot.

Like I've said before, political correctness was never intended to be a sincere effort to improve public discourse. People can offend politically incorrect groups all day long. But say anything that isn't fully supportive of a politically correct person or group, and the PC Police will try to destroy you.

It's a sham.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:05 pm to
Fear-mongering
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:05 pm to
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The self-serving capriciousness is crazy. In March, University of California-Santa Barbara women's studies professor Mireille Miller-Young attacked a 16-year-old holding an anti-abortion sign in the campus' "free speech zone" (formerly known as America). Though she was charged with theft, battery and vandalism, Miller-Young remains unrepentant and still has her job. But Mozilla's Brendan Eich gave a private donation to an anti-gay marriage initiative six years ago and was ordered to recant his beliefs. When he wouldn't, he was forced to resign from the company he helped found.

Got that? A college educator with the right opinions can attack a high school student and keep her job. A corporate executive with the wrong opinions loses his for making a campaign donation. Something is very wrong here.


quote:

She has a point.


Three guarantees in life.
1- Death
2- Taxes
3 Rex and Tuba will not make a comment on this that DIRECTLY deals with the paragraph above
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:05 pm to
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There are two different issues at play here. There is the silencing of unpopular opinions due to market forces. This is how free markets work. Its good to see functioning free markets IMHO, unless you hate capitalism.


what a bullshite excuse. being forced to resign because you gave a small donation 6 years ago is not a fricking "market force"

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Differing ideas are at the core of academia


true...except following one side will get you tenure...while following the other will get you fired.
Posted by fleaux
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Member since Aug 2012
8741 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:06 pm to
And here we go. Rex argues a minor point in the article and tries to change the entire conversation..... I think we've seen this before, Rex
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118758 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:06 pm to
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Which part did you disagree with?


Rex wouldn't have called the article silly if he would have realized it was written by Kristen Powers who is a Democrat liberal and a HUGE HRC fan just like Rex.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61257 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:08 pm to
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Don't bother trying to make sense of what beliefs are permitted and which ones will get you strung up in the town square. Our ideological overlords have created a minefield of inconsistency. While criticizing Islam is intolerant, insulting Christianity is sport. Ayaan Hirsi Ali is persona non grata at Brandeis University for attacking the prophet Mohammed. But Richard Dawkins describes the Old Testament God as "a misogynistic … sadomasochistic … malevolent bully" and the mob yawns. Bill Maher calls the same God a "psychotic mass murderer" and there are no boycott demands of the high-profile liberals who traffic his HBO show.

This is another thing I don't get about leftists: The fawning reverence for Islam. I understand, sort of, why they criticize Christianity and, to a lesser extent, Judaism. And I have no problem with that. Knock yourself out. But Jiminy Crickets, on any of the issues that matter to leftists like women, gays, tolerance (I almost made myself laugh there), Islam is barbaric by comparison.

I would love to have someone explain to me why leftists aren't more critical of Islam.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61257 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 12:10 pm to
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No, she doesn't... unless you're silly enough to think UC-Santa Barbara and Mozilla are the same institutions.
You're right. I'm actually MORE concerned about the behavior of an educator than I am about the behavior of a corporate CEO. Much more concerned. It's not even close.
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