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An in-depth education for the Lockett-lovin'-liberals
Posted on 5/8/14 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 5/8/14 at 2:36 pm
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A snippet of the highlight sheet of the person that liberal's weep for:
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This is the murderer whose recent execution has thrown liberals into deep despair.
A snippet of the highlight sheet of the person that liberal's weep for:
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Stephanie stood by the grave being dug for her for 20 minutes. Lockett shot her, but his gun jammed. So he walked back to the truck to fix it, listening to Stephanie cry, "Oh God! Please! Please!" The three men laughed at her.
Then he returned and shot her again. But Stephanie was still breathing -- so Lockett told the others to bury her anyway. She coughed as dirt was heaped on her face. She was buried alive.
Lockett warned Bornt and Hair that they'd be murdered, too, if they went to the police, then drove them back to Bornt's house. Bornt and Hair reported the rapes, kidnapping and murder the next day. One of Lockett's accomplices quickly confessed and brought the cops to Stephanie's body.
These facts are not contested by Lockett, who, as he wrote in a letter from prison, "told that fool" -- the district attorney -- "I did shoot that bitch."
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Posted on 5/8/14 at 2:37 pm to navy
Just read that.
The moral bankruptcy at the NYT is astounding. They have NO sense of right and wrong.
The moral bankruptcy at the NYT is astounding. They have NO sense of right and wrong.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 2:43 pm to navy
Is this the execution that prompted little barry to have holder review how convicts are put to death?
Posted on 5/8/14 at 2:55 pm to navy
Yeah, I really don't get the anti-death penalty arguments about "we're better than that or them, or whatever." I have no qualms about the state killing someone like this animal.
That being said, my hesitation over the death penalty is the possibility of executing an innocent person.
That being said, my hesitation over the death penalty is the possibility of executing an innocent person.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 2:55 pm to navy
I am against the death penalty, but dang, as long as it's done where it's legal, who cares if the method causes pain.
The end result is the same: dead.
I don't think they're coming back to file a lawsuit.
The end result is the same: dead.
I don't think they're coming back to file a lawsuit.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 2:59 pm to navy
An education from Ann Coulter? No thanks.
I'm no Lockett-lovin'-liberal, but I do love our constitution that protects convicted criminals from cruel & unusual punishment, no matter how heinous the crime is their convicted of committing. If you're for the death penalty as a matter of vengeance, fine. At the very least kill them in a humane way. If you can't do that, lock em up and throw away the key.
I'm no Lockett-lovin'-liberal, but I do love our constitution that protects convicted criminals from cruel & unusual punishment, no matter how heinous the crime is their convicted of committing. If you're for the death penalty as a matter of vengeance, fine. At the very least kill them in a humane way. If you can't do that, lock em up and throw away the key.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 3:04 pm to The Spleen
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An education from Ann Coulter? No thanks.
What difference, at this point, does it make who wrote it?
What part do you dispute or not comprehend?
Posted on 5/8/14 at 3:06 pm to navy
I didn't read it, as I choose to do with anything written by Coulter. I based my other comments on what you posted as the theme of her column - that Lockett deserved to suffer because of the crime he committed. I disagree with that position, so if that wasn't what she conveyed, my apologies.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 3:06 pm to The Spleen
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At the very least kill them in a humane way. If you can't do that, then killed the same way they killed their victim
FIFY
This post was edited on 5/8/14 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 5/8/14 at 3:10 pm to La Place Mike
In a case like this, where the guy not only openly admits that he did it but also brags about how he wanted to kill other people, I dont see why you can't just take out back and give the the old Yeller treatment.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 3:12 pm to navy
I am somewhat liberal and I was not in any despair.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 3:18 pm to The Spleen
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that Lockett deserved to suffer because of the crime he committed.
I think her point may have been that he deserved to die.
I think he deserved to suffer. He didn't suffer nearly as much as his victims did.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 3:18 pm to The Spleen
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At the very least kill them in a humane way.
Define "humane." I hardly doubt he suffered anywhere near as much as his victim did. I'm not sure if his execution was not "humane."
Posted on 5/8/14 at 3:23 pm to navy
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I think her point may have been that he deserved to die
Fair enough, and I can't really argue that even though I'm against the death penalty.
I don't think many liberals are in despair over Lockett though. I think most are concerned with the political maneuverings that went down in Oklahoma leading up to the botched execution, and the movement some states are going through to shield these lethal injection cocktails from the public. Add to it that this particular cocktail had never been tested. It's just dangerous territory for a civilized country.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 3:28 pm to The Spleen
Punish - to make (someone) suffer for a crime or for bad behavior LINK
Cruel - causing or helping to cause suffering LINK
By definition all punishment is cruel since the intent of punishment is to cause suffering. Even a monetary fine is intended to cause suffering. A punishment also must be unusual for it to be forbidden by the Constitution. Painful methods of execution are not unusual in a historic context. Changes in method have been made in the attempts to find more humane methods. However, there is nothing in the Constitution to prevent inhumane methods of execution from being used.
Cruel - causing or helping to cause suffering LINK
By definition all punishment is cruel since the intent of punishment is to cause suffering. Even a monetary fine is intended to cause suffering. A punishment also must be unusual for it to be forbidden by the Constitution. Painful methods of execution are not unusual in a historic context. Changes in method have been made in the attempts to find more humane methods. However, there is nothing in the Constitution to prevent inhumane methods of execution from being used.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 3:42 pm to Poodlebrain
Well, that's not the definition the Supreme Court put on it in its Furman vs Georgia opinion.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 5:55 pm to navy
I wish they would just shoot them in the back of the head like they do in China. It sounds gross, but they never know what hit them.
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