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US Soccer's 'lost generation'?

Posted on 5/7/14 at 3:30 pm
Posted by Stewie Griffin
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 3:30 pm
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that 27-30 sweet spot? It's not "barren," but it's underrepresented. And given that 27 through 30 is prime age for most soccer players, that's a bit odd.

Here's a Best XI of "afterthought" guys in that age group, including a league MVP, a two-time Defender of the Year, and multiple MLS Cup heroes. But none of whom will likely go to Brazil:

FWD: Mike Magee
FWD: Kenny Cooper
LM: Justin Mapp
RM: Lee Nguyen
CM: Benny Feilhaber
DM: Dax McCarty
LB: Corey Ashe
CB: Chad Marshall
CB: Drew Moor
RB: Marvell Wynne
GK: Luis Robles


It's a really interesting thought. I wonder if it's a direct consequence of Jurgen coming in and basically starting over with so much of the system.

This post was edited on 5/7/14 at 3:34 pm
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 3:45 pm to
I think it's more a result of those guys not being good enough for the international level.

ETA:
- Feilhaber's form dropped
- Lee Nguyen fricked off to Vietnam and fell off the radar
This post was edited on 5/7/14 at 3:47 pm
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 3:50 pm to
Who among those guys was ever really a major contributor? Just think it's a shite group
Posted by Lordofwrath88
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 3:59 pm to
I thought this would be about the American footballers from the 1950s to the 1990s. ie, the dark age.
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 4:01 pm to
he is mistaken when he says these guys are not scrubs. these guys are scrubs (on the international level).
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 4:01 pm to
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I thought this would be about the American footballers from the 1950s to the 1990s. ie, the dark age.

Nah man, Walter Payton was the shite.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 4:59 pm to
We have quite a few contributors from that age group. Bradley, Cameron, Bedoya, Besler off the top of my head. If Holden's career hadn't been stolen by those two foreign idiots, 27-30 year olds would be the heart of this team. They already kind of are.
The guys listed in the article aren't good enough. Though I think Benny probably could be.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 5:42 pm to
Feilhaber should get another shot. He's been playing well for SKC.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 5:43 pm to
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Bradley, Cameron, Bedoya, Besler off the top of my head
Zusi is 27 as well.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 5:45 pm to
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GK: Luis Robles
To be fair, we already have 2 great GKs in Howard and Guzan.
Posted by NOTORlOUSD
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
5051 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 6:00 pm to
I would add Eddie Gaven and Bobby Convey.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19501 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 6:05 pm to
And Charlie Davies.

I honestly believe Eddie Gaven is good enough to play internationally.

He's a homeless man's Dempsey.
Posted by Toby Flenderson
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 6:07 pm to
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I would add Bobby Convey.


Just about to say that
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 6:14 pm to
I'll also add that the gap between Zusi and Feilhaber (as well as Nguyen and even Mapp and Gaven) isn't that great in my mind.

The one thing that Zusi does better than the rest - he tracks back on defense.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 6:24 pm to
Zusi also plays out wide, while Feilhaber plays more centrally.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 6:29 pm to
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The one thing that Zusi does better than the rest - he tracks back on defense.



That's pretty important at the international level. Also for some reason I feel like Zusi is more reliable, or less prone to erratic performances.
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 6:30 pm to
Feilhaber is playing the best football of his career. Imo, he deserves a call up to the upcoming camp.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28432 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 7:10 pm to
I would take Benny over Mix.

I think the list is made mostly of players who we thought would be really, really good, and then weren't. They were the young stars, and many of them in MLS from the get go, and none of them really panned out.

Well, except Holden and Cameron.

I'm convinced Charlie Davies would have been as good as those two, if not better, if he had had half a brain cell.
Posted by Harry Pitts
Salt Lake City
Member since Jul 2011
1279 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 8:05 pm to
Wholeheartedly agree. Zusi wont wow you but he's reliable, doesnt turn the ball over in midfield and can deliver an incisive cross.

Watch the USA @ Mexico highlights. He makes a 30 yard run to head the ball clear from what would have been a very good chance on goal.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28432 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 8:44 pm to
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Watch the USA @ Mexico highlights. He makes a 30 yard run to head the ball clear from what would have been a very good chance on goal.

Do you mean the 0-0 game? Because if so I remember this exact moment. He hustles his arse off. I love to see it.
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