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Professor bans graduates from thanking God...University tells professor to f off
Posted on 5/7/14 at 11:40 am
Posted on 5/7/14 at 11:40 am
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In an email obtained by Campus Reform, Assistant Professor Eli Hvastkovs told his students to prepare "family friendly" statements for the chemistry department's recognition event. He said the remarks should refrain from mentioning God.
"I've had some submissions that needed to be edited. so [sic] here are some guidelines,” Hvastkovs wrote. "1. You can't thank God. I'm sorry about this – and I don't want to have to outline the reasons why."
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In a separate email to chemistry students this week, ECU Provost Dr. Marilyn Sheerer said that religious references "of any type" will not be restricted.
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 11:41 am to Choctaw
He must be a regular on /r/atheism
Posted on 5/7/14 at 11:43 am to Choctaw
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and I don't want to have to outline the reasons why
Probably because they are hilariously ignorant. Good call.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 11:43 am to Choctaw
Leftist bastard acts like he has never heard of the First Amendment.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 11:43 am to Choctaw
What about Allah? Zeus?
Posted on 5/7/14 at 11:46 am to Choctaw
I love how people like this fail to realize how hypocritical they are.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 11:46 am to Choctaw
Professors who usurp the rights, moments, etc. of students are a huge pet peeve of mine.
I've experienced it first hand and it is quite common. I'd love to see a graduating class president or someone similar issue a statement in one of these situations basically saying that this is our commencement, not yours, so please keep your political leanings to yourself and stop trying to interfere with our speaker/speaking planning.
It's extremely narcissistic.
I've experienced it first hand and it is quite common. I'd love to see a graduating class president or someone similar issue a statement in one of these situations basically saying that this is our commencement, not yours, so please keep your political leanings to yourself and stop trying to interfere with our speaker/speaking planning.
It's extremely narcissistic.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 11:53 am to Pettifogger
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Professors who usurp the rights, moments, etc. of students are a huge pet peeve of mine.
schools have a right to restrict the rights of students in the classroom.
This seems a little foolish on the professors part but this is not a first amendment issue. Just pettiness.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 11:57 am to Hawkeye95
I thought one of the tenants of higher learning was free thought and ideas? Proffessor sounds like a small minded fool.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 12:00 pm to Hawkeye95
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Professors who usurp the rights, moments, etc. of students are a huge pet peeve of mine.
schools have a right to restrict the rights of students in the classroom.
This seems a little foolish on the professors part but this is not a first amendment issue. Just pettiness.
Not really applicable to what I'm talking about.
It's not really a first amendment issue, it's a "what should be proper in academia" issue. Students should have the right, in an academic (not constitutional) sense, to play a major, perhaps predominant role in planning their own commencement. Especially in law school and the like.
The school is for the students, they should be the focus of attention, and the faculty should keep their mouths shut for the most part and let the students have their say.
It is absolutely obnoxious that protests, largely facilitated by liberal faculty, would keep students from hearing noteworthy graduation speakers and the like. Yet it happens all the time, because of the inflated self-worth of the petulant faculty.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 12:01 pm to Choctaw
Stupid, people should be able to thank whoever they want.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 12:01 pm to Choctaw
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You can't thank God. I'm sorry about this – and I don't want to have to outline the reasons why."
If your faith in God (any God) is what gave you the strength to make it through the tough times, why in the frick would this assclown not let you thank that being?
If he tried this shite, all I would do is thank my priest and talk about my priest's beliefs for an hour!
Posted on 5/7/14 at 12:02 pm to Hawkeye95
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this is not a first amendment issue.
It's an issue that most likely, this professor thinks the first amendment compels him to do this, or at the very least, is on his side. This guy is dumb and he is teaching our young people.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 12:02 pm to Pettifogger
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It's not really a first amendment issue, it's a "what should be proper in academia" issue. Students should have the right, in an academic (not constitutional) sense, to play a major, perhaps predominant role in planning their own commencement. Especially in law school and the like.
I thought you were saying it was a constitutional right, which is definitely curtailed in an academic setting.
Its just silliness, and glad to see it was overturned.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 12:09 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Stupid, people should be able to thank whoever they want.
Like when people thank Obama for Obamacare?
Posted on 5/7/14 at 12:14 pm to Hawkeye95
An agent of the state restricting speech isn't a First Amendment issue?
I'm not saying it's an issue that hasn't been resolved, but it most certainly is a First Amendment issue.
I'm not saying it's an issue that hasn't been resolved, but it most certainly is a First Amendment issue.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 12:16 pm to boosiebadazz
I hope the students thank God, Allah, Manson, Mao, Buddha, Bertha and especially Obama and anybody but Saban, Hannity and Rush and Paul Finebaum.
hell they can thank all of us on TD
hell they can thank all of us on TD
Posted on 5/7/14 at 12:20 pm to boosiebadazz
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I'm not saying it's an issue that hasn't been resolved, but it most certainly is a First Amendment issue.
I doubt the professor would be a state actor here, but I'm not certain.
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