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Widespread shutdown of flights in Western US cuased by U-2 Spyplane
Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:07 am
Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:07 am
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Is this just a routine training flight or are we now using spyplanes to monitor activity of US citizens?
Drones aren't good enough now?
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The Pentagon could not immediately be reached for comment.
NBC, citing unnamed sources, reported a U-2, a Cold War-era spy plane still in use by the U.S. military, passed through air space monitored by the Los Angeles Air Route Traffic Control Center and appears to have overloaded a computer system at the center.
Computers at the center began operations to prevent the U-2 from colliding with other aircraft, even though the U-2 was flying at an altitude of 60,000 feet and other airplanes passing through the region's air space were miles below, NBC reported.
Sources told NBC News the U-2 plane had a U.S. Defense Department flight plan. "It was a 'Dragon Lady,'" one source told NBC, using the nickname for the plane.
FAA spokeswoman Lynn Lunsford would not comment on whether the computer problem at the agency's center on Wednesday was caused by a U-2 flight.
"We aren't confirming anything beyond what we already said about it being a software issue that we corrected," Lunsford said in an email to Reuters.
Is this just a routine training flight or are we now using spyplanes to monitor activity of US citizens?
Drones aren't good enough now?
Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:12 am to ironsides
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are we now using spyplanes to monitor activity of US citizens?
let's not go crazy now
Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:14 am to ironsides
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Is this just a routine training flight or are we now using spyplanes to monitor activity of US citizens?
Drones aren't good enough now?
Routine training flight. Amd I'm more concerned with why our air traffic control crashed.
Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:14 am to ironsides
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Is this just a routine training flight or are we now using spyplanes to monitor activity of US citizens?
Drones aren't good enough now?
Why do you insist on taking an interesting story and dumbing it down with this nonsense? Sorry to burst your bubble bro, but the government isn't interested in seeing the Snapchats you send your girlfriend.
Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:14 am to ironsides
Do U-2s have the ability to monitor communications? I thought they were only used for surveillance purposes.
Why would we need to fly a U-2 over something when we could just put a satellite over it?
More than likely, this was simply a U-2 returning to its base somewhere in the continental U.S..
However, we can still get our panties in a wad if you guys want to...
Why would we need to fly a U-2 over something when we could just put a satellite over it?
More than likely, this was simply a U-2 returning to its base somewhere in the continental U.S..
However, we can still get our panties in a wad if you guys want to...
This post was edited on 5/5/14 at 10:16 am
Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:16 am to ironsides
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are we now using spyplanes to monitor activity of US citizens?
Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:16 am to ironsides
If the government wanted to spy on a particular group, couldn't they just put a CIA operative on them?
What good does a full sized spy plane do for the gov to spy?
What good does a full sized spy plane do for the gov to spy?
Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:20 am to ASTL
If it's a routine flight, why not say so?
Yes, the shutdown of the computers is alarming as well.
Yes, the shutdown of the computers is alarming as well.
Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:21 am to ironsides
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If it's a routine flight, why not say so?
because they don't have to or need to
if you knew how many planes and satellites were over your head at any given moment this wouldn't bother you at all
This post was edited on 5/5/14 at 10:22 am
Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:27 am to ironsides
I thought the entire fleet was mothballed @ 10 years ago.
Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:33 am to CITWTT
They've been flying missions over Iraq, Afghanistan, and Africa since 2009.
Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:33 am to Choctaw
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because they don't have to or need to
While this is true, given the current state of what has gone on in the last 18 months with the NSA, Drones monitoring citizens, excessive abuses of power everywhere etc.; it would be reassuring if they did issue a statement. They shut down air traffic for major metro areas because of it.
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if you knew how many planes and satellites were over your head at any given moment this wouldn't bother you at all
Most planes and satellites are not spyplanes or spy satellites though. And most of them don't shut down air traffic
Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:27 am to ironsides
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And most of them don't shut down air traffic
Software glitches be crazy.
I'm throwing the bullshite flag on this one. SR-71s flew out of Beale all the time. Surely the software had been coded for high altitude aircraft. Something else happened. It wasn't the fault of the U2 unless it had some type of beeper/squeaker box on board that was inadvertently activated.
Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:30 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Amd I'm more concerned with why our air traffic control crashed.
Brand new system (ERAM) got to work the bugs out
Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:35 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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EMP dry run.
I was thinking more along the lines of a possibly apocryphal legend about an EF-111 that made a switch error and shut down several TACANs in the SW.
Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:40 am to DevilDogTiger
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Brand new system (ERAM) got to work the bugs out
Apparently the app tests were a go when the code compiled.
Posted on 5/5/14 at 3:14 pm to ironsides
The U2 is not a "spy plane", it's a high-altitude aerial reconnaissance platform.
The USGS used it for it's national digital ortho-photo quarter-quad (DOQQ) program for the US. They may still use it, I'm not sure since they've gone to digital imagery. This is the photography that they base the "quad maps" and NOAA navigational charts on, and very useful in civil applications.
Up until recently you just couldn't get the same resolution from a civilian satellite platform that you could from an aircraft, so they used the U2. Since the QuickBird satellite launch by DigitalGlobe, the aerial platform may be obsolete for most civil application, but still may be used in some.
So just try to remain calm when you hear "U2", and think about...
She is Liberty
And she comes to rescue me
Hope, Faith, her Vanity
The greatest gift is gold
...and go to sleep.
The USGS used it for it's national digital ortho-photo quarter-quad (DOQQ) program for the US. They may still use it, I'm not sure since they've gone to digital imagery. This is the photography that they base the "quad maps" and NOAA navigational charts on, and very useful in civil applications.
Up until recently you just couldn't get the same resolution from a civilian satellite platform that you could from an aircraft, so they used the U2. Since the QuickBird satellite launch by DigitalGlobe, the aerial platform may be obsolete for most civil application, but still may be used in some.
So just try to remain calm when you hear "U2", and think about...
She is Liberty
And she comes to rescue me
Hope, Faith, her Vanity
The greatest gift is gold
...and go to sleep.
Posted on 5/5/14 at 7:36 pm to ironsides
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Is this just a routine training flight or are we now using spyplanes to monitor activity of US citizens?
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