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Can anyone recommend educational works of literature on Communism, etc?

Posted on 5/4/14 at 1:17 pm
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 5/4/14 at 1:17 pm
I would like to learn more about the principles of state-centered philosophies like communism, socialism, facism, etc.

Preferably if they contained their bias to a minimum; I don't want to read a book trying to convince me their philosophy is the best thing since tit sex but I understand that might be difficult given the nature of what I am looking for.

I don't really know much about these sorts of things other than many of the negatives, I would like to learn about what people think is positive besides "muh equalities" or "order"
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8078 posts
Posted on 5/4/14 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

I would like to learn more about the principles of state-centered philosophies like communism, socialism, facism, etc.

I'll make a simple suggestion: read Marx.

It's especially eye-opening to read the originators thoughts on the state, inequality, etc.

The communist philosophy is much closer to anarchy than state-socialism.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80286 posts
Posted on 5/4/14 at 1:35 pm to
Start with Marx and Engels.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36425 posts
Posted on 5/4/14 at 2:03 pm to
The Origins of Totalitarianism by Hannah Arendt
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112517 posts
Posted on 5/4/14 at 5:23 pm to
In any given election year you can read the Democratic National Platform just before their convention.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 5/4/14 at 5:28 pm to
I was looking for more sorts of things like logistical and functional ways it's supposed to work rather than DNC pixie dust.

Thanks for the suggestions guys, I'll put them on my summer reading list.
This post was edited on 5/4/14 at 5:30 pm
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10668 posts
Posted on 5/4/14 at 7:59 pm to
if you want to read about Marxism it's best to read Marx.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 5/4/14 at 8:08 pm to
Yep, if you seriously want to study the whole thing then starting with Marx is probably a good idea, but be aware that just like any other school of thought with a large following, you can spend a lifetime learning about the different branches and nooks and crannies.

Or you could start with this

Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 5/4/14 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

In any given election year you can read the Democratic National Platform just before their convention.



HAHAHA!!!! Had I read that prior to taking a wz.. I would have wet myself!


Posted by jackamo3300
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2004
2901 posts
Posted on 5/4/14 at 8:58 pm to
If you can find it, The Marxists, by C. Wright Mills.

He gives you the effectiveness of the philosophy as an ideology, its symbiosis with liberalism, and its pervasiveness worldwide up to the time of his book.

C. Wright Mills, who also wrote The Power Elite and White Collar and who was a professor in the Frankfurt school American satellite/nest Columbia University, spent the last years of his life decrying what he saw as the failure of liberalism from a forlorn, “what if” perspective.

The smugness comes through in his writing about how while Western nations, particularly this country, were outwardly resistant to the Marxist system, it was being introduced stealthily into many of their institutions, particularly gov’t and private schools and media, and we weren't picking up on it.

We did many years later – like now – but it’s a little late.

In his book, The Marxists, he admits that both Marxism and liberalism have identical objectives, and that the major difference between the two belief systems is in the methods to be used in attaining those objectives. And it is within this context that he viewed liberalism not as an antithesis/adversary to Marxism, but as merely a more acceptable alternative.

Just two excerpts from The Marxists:

“You can’t examine Marxism effectively without stating and examining the standards of liberalism.”

“Those who reject or ignore Marxist ways of thinking are rejecting the classic traditions of their own disciplines.”

He’s speaking above of academia, but it has metastasized into many more institutions than just academia.

In retrospect, the book provides some insight into the foundations that were being laid for where we are now.

And there should be no mystery as to how that disaster in the WH happened.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15737 posts
Posted on 5/4/14 at 9:12 pm to
Other writings that might be of interest:

Hitler's Mein Kampf & Bastiat's The Law.

It'd probably also be beneficial to read some history of the times to get a good context of the geopolitical environment at the times that the different philosophies were coming into prevalence.
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