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Pay down mortgage vs invest extra money

Posted on 4/27/14 at 7:06 pm
Posted by DzNtz
BR
Member since Oct 2007
684 posts
Posted on 4/27/14 at 7:06 pm
I am about one year into a 30 year mortgage at 4.75%. The wife and I have a little extra money on top of what we put away for savings/retirement/future unforseens.

Would it be better to put a few hundred bucks a month into an investment or pay down principal on mortgage?

We plan on staying in the house for a long time if that matters.

Would investing return greater dividends than the mortgage interest rate of am I overthinking this?
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27824 posts
Posted on 4/27/14 at 7:26 pm to
I'd invest it in something else. Go on a long vacation...
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Member since Oct 2007
25445 posts
Posted on 4/27/14 at 7:31 pm to
We're making one extra payment a year, that'll put our house being paid off at exactly age 65. We'll save about 40k in interest (30 year, 3.625%, 417,000 loan) knock 4 years off the loan.

Are there better returns possible? Of course. This is just what works for us. I would speak to someone who can look at your entire portfolio and help guide you best.

Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37714 posts
Posted on 4/27/14 at 7:36 pm to
Are you sure your math is right? I believe on extra payment a year knocks much more than that off.
Posted by bobaftt1212
Hills of TN
Member since Mar 2013
1316 posts
Posted on 4/27/14 at 7:43 pm to
I would argue that if you can earn more in an investment you should put the money there. Have you maxed out your roth?
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/27/14 at 7:46 pm to
quote:

Are you sure your math is right? I believe on extra payment a year knocks much more than that off.


Pretty sure. At 3.625 there's not much to knock off.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30189 posts
Posted on 4/27/14 at 7:59 pm to
I'm no expert, but if you could get a return greater than your interest rate, would you not be better off investing it?

Conversely, if you feel you'd only get a return less than your interest rate, I'd imagine you'd be better off paying down your mortgage.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65667 posts
Posted on 4/27/14 at 8:22 pm to
Refi to a 15 year note if you are going to be in the house for at least five more years.

You'll thank me later.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 4/27/14 at 10:11 pm to
quote:

We plan on staying in the house for a long time if that matters.


It does matter.

You're paying 4.75%. Assuming you're in the 25% tax bracket and can take the interest deduction, that's a post-tax rate of 3 5/8 %.

So if you pay extra now, that is basically the equivalent of buying a 29 year bond at that rate. That isn't much better than the rate of inflation, btw. It's a better return that buying 30 year US Treasuries, which currently yield 3 5/8 pretax, so it isn't terrible but not great either.

But when mortgage rates get back up closer to historical norms my answer might well change, but for now I'd invest.
Posted by LSUWhoDat
Member since Jun 2012
932 posts
Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:52 pm to
I'm 36 and paid my mortgage off in 8.5 yrs. It was the best decision I ever made. I now have money to do whatever the hell I want.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 4/27/14 at 11:56 pm to
quote:

paid my mortgage off in 8.5 yrs. It was the best decision I ever made.


8.5 years ago rates were much higher and it probably was a good decision then. Today, not really.
Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
20507 posts
Posted on 4/28/14 at 12:20 am to
quote:

So if you pay extra now, that is basically the equivalent of buying a 29 year bond at that rate. That isn't much better than the rate of inflation, btw. It's a better return that buying 30 year US Treasuries, which currently yield 3 5/8 pretax, so it isn't terrible but not great either.


Doesn't history say 29 years in the stock market will give you a much better return?
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 4/28/14 at 5:56 am to
quote:

Doesn't history say 29 years in the stock market will give you a much better return?


I think that was his point.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15045 posts
Posted on 4/28/14 at 9:56 am to
quote:

Have you maxed out your roth?

This is the big question. In my opinion if you still have space left in tax-advantaged accounts the math just doesn't support paying down a low-interest home loan.
Posted by That's BS
Smoothie King Center
Member since Jan 2012
1783 posts
Posted on 4/28/14 at 10:40 am to
Also, keep in mind that once you pay extra money towards your mortgage, that money is gone. You can't call them up and say "I need some of that money back for an unexpected emergency/investment opportunity/just because." If you invest it, you can sell your investment if the money is ever needed.

I'm now 2 years into a refi of my house for 15 yr, 3.375%. I'm choosing to invest the extra money instead of paying down the mortgage right now.
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