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Do you believe in free will?

Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:22 pm
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:22 pm
I hahppen to believe that all of our actions are predetermined, in a sense, by our genetics and our environment. I believe if we act in a certain way with a certain set of conditions we would act that way every time if we were somehow able to rewind time and all conditions were the same and we had no knowledge of the event or our actions to it the prvious time in this hypothetical scenario. Obviously there is no way to prove my theory but it is an interesting point for discussion. Do you agree or disagree?
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150742 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:22 pm to
Geddy Lee sure does.
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:23 pm to
If you don't have free will,and believe all is pre determined you wash away any personal responsibility.
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
17176 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:23 pm to
Rush does.

ETA: Crap!
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 1:24 pm
Posted by goldenbadger08
Sorting Out MSB BS Since 2011
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:23 pm to
I'm sitting in a philosophy class discussing that at this exact moment.. Holy crap.


But no, no I do not.
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

I'm sitting in a philosophy class discussing that at this exact moment.
no, you aren't
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

I hahppen to believe that all of our actions are predetermined, in a sense, by our genetics and our environment. I believe if we act in a certain way with a certain set of conditions we would act that way every time if we were somehow able to rewind time and all conditions were the same and we had no knowledge of the event or our actions to it the prvious time in this hypothetical scenario. Obviously there is no way to prove my theory but it is an interesting point for discussion. Do you agree or disagree?



Disagree and there are a ton of ways to prove your argument is wrong, here is one: You can always move, using your free will, and that would change your environment so your argument is invalid.
Posted by goldenbadger08
Sorting Out MSB BS Since 2011
Member since Oct 2011
37900 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:25 pm to
Yes I am....
Posted by beejon
University Of Louisiana Warhawks
Member since Nov 2008
7959 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:26 pm to
I believe in free will. Darwinism is an enemy to free will as well as Calvinism is an enemy to free will.

I just chose to type that, wasn't genetics, wasn't predestination.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47608 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:26 pm to
Yes. Free will exists
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:28 pm to
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Disagree and there are a ton of ways to prove your argument is wrong, here is one: You can always move, using your free will, and that would change your environment so your argument is invalid.


And that would be one of the two factors I believe determine all of our actions. I don't believe what you wrote disagrees with what I wrote in any way.
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

If you don't have free will,and believe all is pre determined you wash away any personal responsibility.


I cannot disagree with that.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19239 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:29 pm to
Most definitely. My reactions to similar situations are often illogical and inconsistent. If you rewound time, I don't see me doing the same exact thing every single instant.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141954 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:30 pm to
We must believe in free will. We have no choice.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66422 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

if we act in a certain way with a certain set of conditions we would act that way every time if we were somehow able to rewind time and all conditions were the same


Wrong. All of the reactions that go on in our brains are random. You could make a clone of yourself and put yourselves in the same situation and they may not choose the same thing
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

Do you believe in free will?


Of course.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47608 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

We must believe in free will. We have no choice.


Posted by DosManos
Member since Oct 2013
3552 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

wasn't predestination


How do you know? How do you know the being pulilng your strings in this Matrix-esque video game of life didn't compel you to type that?
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:32 pm to
Yes. You have ability and power to choose to do right or wrong. That is free will.
Posted by DosManos
Member since Oct 2013
3552 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

All of the reactions that go on in our brains are random.


Doesn't this disprove free will?
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