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86M Full-Time Private-Sector Workers Sustain 148M Benefit Takers
Posted on 4/16/14 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 4/16/14 at 1:24 pm
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Buried deep on the website of the U.S. Census Bureau is a number every American citizen, and especially those entrusted with public office, should know. It is 86,429,000.
That is the number of Americans who in 2012 got up every morning and went to work — in the private sector — and did it week after week after week.
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In 2012, according to the Census Bureau, approximately 103,087,000 people worked full-time, year-round in the United States. "A full-time, year-round worker is a person who worked 35 or more hours per week (full time) and 50 or more weeks during the previous calendar year (year round)," said the Census Bureau. "For school personnel, summer vacation is counted as weeks worked if they are scheduled to return to their job in the fall."
Of the 103,087,000 full-time, year-round workers, 16,606,000 worked for the government. That included 12,597,000 who worked for state and local government and 4,009,000 who worked for the federal government.
The 86,429,000 Americans who worked full-time, year-round in the private sector, included 77,392,000 employed as wage and salary workers for private-sector enterprises and 9,037,000 who worked for themselves. (There were also approximately 52,000 who worked full-time, year-round without pay in a family enterprise.)
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The Census Bureau also estimates the size of the benefit-receiving population.
This population, too, falls into two broad categories. The first includes those who receive benefits for public services they performed or in exchange for payroll taxes they dutifully paid their entire working lives. Among these, for example, are those receiving veteran's benefits, those on unemployment and those getting Medicare and Social Security.
The second category includes those who get "means-tested" government benefits — or welfare. These include, for example, those who get Medicaid, food stamps, Supplemental Security Income, public housing, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, and Women, Infants Children.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 1:32 pm to wickowick
That which cannot be sustained, won't be.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 1:35 pm to wickowick
Sounds like there is a big tax paying gap here. Obama needs to fix this since he's so against inequality.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 1:35 pm to wickowick
Is this really the scale of the situation? Holy hell
Posted on 4/16/14 at 1:38 pm to wickowick
quote:Is that a bad thing?
86M Full-Time Private-Sector Workers Sustain 148M Benefit Takers
Just kidding
Posted on 4/16/14 at 1:42 pm to dante
Here is how the study arrived at the 148M
Forward!
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All told, including both the welfare recipients and the non-welfare beneficiaries, there were 151,014,000 who "received benefits from one or more programs" in the fourth quarter of 2011. Subtract the 3,212,000 veterans, who served their country in the most profound way possible, and that leaves 147,802,000 non-veteran benefit takers.
Forward!
Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:57 pm to Oenophile Brah
This is BS - Who received benefits could be anything, including Donald Trump receiving aid for his hemeroids. This is total bs
Posted on 4/16/14 at 3:22 pm to wickowick
So what if I worked in the private sector for a company that received government contracts? How would I be counted?
Are public school teachers considered benefit takers?
Are public school teachers considered benefit takers?
Posted on 4/16/14 at 3:47 pm to wickowick
Did I read that correctly?
Only people who work 35+ hours for 50 weeks a year are counted?
What about people who are full-time in seasonal industries? Contractors / subcontractors who make good money but have inconsistent work?
Seems like an awfully sketchy set of numbers, IMO...
Only people who work 35+ hours for 50 weeks a year are counted?
What about people who are full-time in seasonal industries? Contractors / subcontractors who make good money but have inconsistent work?
Seems like an awfully sketchy set of numbers, IMO...
Posted on 4/16/14 at 3:54 pm to wickowick
Does that survey take into consideration those who work 2-3 part time jobs to sustain a liveable wage?
Posted on 4/16/14 at 3:55 pm to wickowick
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This population, too, falls into two broad categories. The first includes those who receive benefits for public services they performed or in exchange for payroll taxes they dutifully paid their entire working lives. Among these, for example, are those receiving veteran's benefits, those on unemployment and those getting Medicare and Social Security.
The second category includes those who get "means-tested" government benefits — or welfare. These include, for example, those who get Medicaid, food stamps, Supplemental Security Income, public housing, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, and Women, Infants Children.
What category does my next door neighbor fall in?
She is a stay at home mom with 4 kids, her husband makes over $350K.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 3:59 pm to TigerintheNO
Probably neither. There's over 300 million of us'ns.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 4:07 pm to RuLSU
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What about people who are full-time in seasonal industries? Contractors / subcontractors who make good money but have inconsistent work?
pretty sure seasonal workers were eligible for unemployment in the off season until 2012 or so. some may still be.
numbers arent as sketchy as you want to believe.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 4:13 pm to wickowick
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86M Full-Time Private-Sector Workers Sustain 148M Benefit Takers
A number of people fall into both categories. Walmart employees and such.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 4:59 pm to jcole4lsu
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pretty sure seasonal workers were eligible for unemployment in the off season until 2012 or so. some may still be.
numbers arent as sketchy as you want to believe.
That was merely one example I came up with.
As far as 'wanting' to believe - I'll believe any credible statistic that has sound methodology.
In regards to this particular article, I have some doubts.
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