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Players from past vs players today (baseball)
Posted on 4/15/14 at 11:46 pm
Posted on 4/15/14 at 11:46 pm
Do you think players such as Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb would be anywhere near as successful if they played in the current league. Am I stupid to think that neither would crack a professional line up today?
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 11:51 pm
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 11:47 pm to cheesesteak501
I don't think they would be as successful. Competition is just so much better from top to bottom.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 11:48 pm to cheesesteak501
Babe Ruth would drag his nuts across LeBron's face...
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 11:52 pm
Posted on 4/15/14 at 11:50 pm to lsu31always
I don't think they even compare with players today. But some guy said they would still be great. I'd bet they never had more than 10 dudes hit 90 mph in those days.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 11:54 pm to lsu31always
No Ruth and Cobb came up in the 1910's that is just too far the sports as a whole barely even resembles what it was back then.
I think 50's/60's players like Mays, Mantle, Koufax, Clemente etc would still be really good though
I think 50's/60's players like Mays, Mantle, Koufax, Clemente etc would still be really good though
Posted on 4/15/14 at 11:57 pm to VerlanderBEAST
Tony Gwynn said the difference is huge from the beginning of his career to where it is now. He said when he came in it was pretty rare to have guys coming out of the bullpen throwing mid 90's.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:07 am to cheesesteak501
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Am I stupid to think that neither would crack a professional line up today?
Yes
Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:32 am to cheesesteak501
There's no way either of those drunk fricks sniff the MLB, let alone get drafted.
On the flip side, I'd have been a Legend back then.
I could hit the shite out of 80 mph fastballs.
The key back then would be to lay of the spitter. Look for the ball that comes at you with no water coming off of it.
On the flip side, I'd have been a Legend back then.
I could hit the shite out of 80 mph fastballs.
The key back then would be to lay of the spitter. Look for the ball that comes at you with no water coming off of it.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 1:07 am to cheesesteak501
quote:
Do you think players such as Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb would be anywhere near as successful if they played in the current league
There stats would most illy not be as good
quote:
Am I stupid to think that neither would crack a professional line up today?
Yea
Posted on 4/16/14 at 1:08 am to cheesesteak501
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I don't think they even compare with players today. But some guy said they would still be great. I'd bet they never had more than 10 dudes hit 90 mph in those days.
I don't like this argument, they hit against the guys who were around. Why do you assume they couldn't adjust to the way the game is today? We are talking about generational talents here
Posted on 4/16/14 at 1:08 am to cheesesteak501
quote:How many players today consistently hit against spitballs?
I'd bet they never had more than 10 dudes hit 90 mph in those days
Posted on 4/16/14 at 1:39 am to cheesesteak501
If they are allowed the same facilities, nutrition (maybe not Ruth)... then yes.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 1:57 am to SparkyAvenger
That's not what I'm saying though. Straight up take Ruth and Cobb in their 20's and just drop in todays game. I don't think they would be great.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:14 am to Tiger1242
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they hit against the guys who were around
yeah, exclusively white people
Posted on 4/16/14 at 3:03 am to cheesesteak501
Bob Gibson would still eat today's players lunch today, unfortunately he would be thrown out of a lot a games.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 3:41 am to Tiger1242
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I don't like this argument, they hit against the guys who were around. Why do you assume they couldn't adjust to the way the game is today? We are talking about generational talents here
His post is either a troll or a genuine argument fueled by idiocy and not worth debating. Babe hit as many home runs as entire teams some years. The distance he hit the ball combined with the weight of the bat he used makes clear that many of the pitchers were also throwing over 90 mph fwiw.
Plus the United States was a baseball mad country back then. It was truly the national pastime and the obsession with playing the sport as much as possible led to the development of extraordinarily skilled baseball players. Some try to disparage the older players on the basis of a lack of integration but applying this criticism to the Babe is probably unfair because during the barnstorming tours in which the Yankees etc played negro league players he was also impossible to stop.
People don't like to worship what didn't happen in their lifetime and especially when they were young. That's the primary explanation for why some now question a guy who pretty much couldn't have done any better than he did in what amounts to the greatest career in baseball history.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 6:44 am to Remote Controlled
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I could hit the shite out of 80 mph fastballs.
Could you do it with a 40-50 oz bat?
Posted on 4/16/14 at 6:55 am to cheesesteak501
The Babe had the size to be a ball player in today's game
Baseball-Reference has him listed at 6'2" 215lbs
He must have looked like a monster on the field back then. I really didn't think he was that big.
Baseball-Reference has him listed at 6'2" 215lbs
He must have looked like a monster on the field back then. I really didn't think he was that big.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 7:03 am to mylsuhat
Ummm, maybe they'd use the training techniques developed in the intervening years and be as good relative to the comp as they were then.
That's kind of like saying, "Well Isaac Newton couldn't compete in science today because he didn't even have a laptop."
That's kind of like saying, "Well Isaac Newton couldn't compete in science today because he didn't even have a laptop."
Posted on 4/16/14 at 8:40 am to gthog61
No way Ruth could play today. I mean, today's game is only fit for such physical specimens as Ryan Howard and David Ortiz.
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