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Can someone give cliffs on what ppl keep referring to Waco
Posted on 4/14/14 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 4/14/14 at 11:43 pm
When discussing the Bundy deal? What happened in Waco? I was 5 at the time and have never heard of it.
I would prefer cliffs if possible.
I would prefer cliffs if possible.
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 11:47 pm to TigerTatorTots
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I would prefer cliffs if possible.
They dead.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 11:48 pm to TigerTatorTots
Super quick because I'm on my phone and was also too young:
The Feds tried to intervene to stop some cult by essentially laying siege to their compound.
The Fed's siege led to more deaths and such than the group ever committed on its own.
Janet Reno approves.
The Feds tried to intervene to stop some cult by essentially laying siege to their compound.
The Fed's siege led to more deaths and such than the group ever committed on its own.
Janet Reno approves.
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 11:49 pm
Posted on 4/14/14 at 11:48 pm to TigerTatorTots
Google David Koresh.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 11:51 pm to trackfan
It was like James Jones, except the Gov't supplied the koolaid, in the end.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 11:53 pm to TigerTatorTots
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The Waco siege (also known as the Waco Massacre) was a siege of a compound belonging to the religious group Branch Davidians by American federal and Texas state law enforcement and military between February 28 and April 19, 1993.[4] The Branch Davidians, a sect that separated in 1955 from the Seventh-day Adventist Church, was led by David Koresh and lived at Mount Carmel Center ranch in the community of Elk, Texas,[5][6][7] nine miles (14 kilometers) east-northeast of Waco. The group was suspected of weapons violations and a search and arrest warrant was obtained by the U.S. federal agency Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF).
The incident began when the ATF attempted to raid the ranch. An intense gun battle erupted, resulting in the deaths of four agents and six Branch Davidians. Upon the ATF's failure to raid the compound, a siege was initiated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the standoff lasting 51 days. Eventually, the FBI launched an assault and initiated a tear gas attack in an attempt to force the Branch Davidians out. During the attack, a fire engulfed Mount Carmel Center and 76 men, women, and children,[8][9] including David Koresh, died.
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Feds believed Koresh had illegal firearms and was sexually involved with minors. They failed to arrest him when they had opportunities, and their raids on the compound resulted in the deaths of many people. It came one year after the Ruby Ridge incident.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 11:53 pm to TigerTatorTots
Seriously, going off memory(I was only 14), David Koresh claimed to be the second coming. He claimed that this go around he was supposed to sin... a lot. Supposedly had a stockpile of weapons. The gov said "what about the children?!?" and proceeded to burn it down and kill them all(or most, don't remember).
Posted on 4/14/14 at 11:53 pm to TigerTatorTots
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Can someone give cliffs on what ppl keep referring to Waco
Baylor girls take it in the butt to save their virginity for marriage.
It probably has something to do with this waco siege
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:37 am to willthezombie
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Baylor girls take it in the butt to save their virginity for marriage.
You sir haven't been around Baylor lately.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:37 am to RogerTheShrubber
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It came one year after the Ruby Ridge incident.
You left out for our young whipper snapper that Ruby Ridge and Waco led to the Oklahoma City Bombing.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 12:56 am to TigerTatorTots
Watched this on tv in class in my Catholic high school during religion class. The teacher said, "see class, that is why you don't join cults."
Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:01 am to CroakaBait
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Watched this on tv in class in my Catholic high school during religion class. The teacher said, "see class, that is why you don't join cults."
the ironyPosted on 4/15/14 at 1:07 am to CroakaBait
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Watched this on tv in class in my Catholic high school during religion class. The teacher said, "see class, that is why you don't join cults."
Nice.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:10 am to ManBearTiger
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the irony
Must occur a lot there because I remember asking my dad if he remembered when JFK was assassinated, and he said yeah, Brother So & So came on the announcements to inform everyone, and all the students erupted in cheers.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:55 am to ClydeFrog
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Janet Reno approves.
I still think she got a bum rap on that. The operation had been in the works for a long time and the initial raid on the compound in which four feds and six cultists were killed occurred two weeks before she even took office. She authorized the siege but she didn't really have much choice at that point.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 5:22 am to TigerTatorTots
The mindset of people was different back then too. They were much more trusting back then. If the Govt said The BD's were a dangerous cult a lot of people took that at face value. I actually got into a fistfight the day after with my boss and owner of the company that I was working for back then. He was a reserve deputy or some such and was saying they got what they deserved.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 5:54 am to bencoleman
Well the BD's were armed and did fire at the ATF when they were assaulting the compound.
That said, the ATF totally botched the raid. They ran a tank into the side of the building and shot tear gas that ignited a fire. Or maybe they purposely set the building on fire - I can't remember.
That said, the ATF totally botched the raid. They ran a tank into the side of the building and shot tear gas that ignited a fire. Or maybe they purposely set the building on fire - I can't remember.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:35 am to econ85
The govt stepped in and stopped some child abuse by killing a bunch of the kids.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:39 am to RogerTheShrubber
We don't even know if Koresh was really molesting anyone. That's the government's convenient slander against anyone they want the public to dislike. He was't ever tried because they killed everyone instead, so we never saw the evidence of heard his defense.
That said, the raid wasn't even about that. The raid was over the gun stash the Feds had been tipped off about. Instead of just arresting ol Dave for something else when he was out and then searching the leader-less compound in normal fashion, the Feds raided the place unannounced, guns blazing, and SURPRISE! the people they surprise-attacked fought back.
The siege ended when they put a tank turret through the wall, pumped the place full of flammable gas, and set it on fire, killing all the kids.
That said, the raid wasn't even about that. The raid was over the gun stash the Feds had been tipped off about. Instead of just arresting ol Dave for something else when he was out and then searching the leader-less compound in normal fashion, the Feds raided the place unannounced, guns blazing, and SURPRISE! the people they surprise-attacked fought back.
The siege ended when they put a tank turret through the wall, pumped the place full of flammable gas, and set it on fire, killing all the kids.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 6:40 am
Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:41 am to CamdenTiger
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It was like James Jones, except the Gov't supplied the koolaid, in the end.
Some think the govt supplied the kool-aid for Jim Jones as well.
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