Pass/Run Ratio

I think you have it backwards. It looks like it should be P/R not R/P

We sure ran a lot in 2013 Blu

We also finished 2nd in the division last year, not first. I mean we should have finished 1st.

But really, this isn't about just commitment to the run game. In 2006 with Deuce it was, but in 2009 we ran a ton more because we were so far up in quite a few games so it skewed the numbers.

I'd love a more even ratio, but we have had to win many games passing and if that's the case this year again I'll take it. Whatever the situation calls for.

I think the more important thing is to stick to the run early whether it is working or not, then see where we are after half time and adjust. If we could have r/p 45/55 in the first half I'll take it, but the second half is about what will win the game.

Spin off thread idea, would taking a legit power runner 1st or 2nd round in the draft actually be better than taking a WR in the 1st or 2nd?

When we had Deuce we had our best run game by far aside from the skewed super bowl year. It would help with closing out games, making getting 1st downs easier, and the play action game and may be a better investment with Brees heading into his twilight.

And this is likely to be Ingram's last year and PT and him are not power rushers(and PT is getting older). Robinson has shown flashes of it so maybe he can fill that role, but maybe getting a guy that could definitely fill it would be better.

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Can't see 1st or 2nd just for the general devaluation of RBs.

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Not true for every team, and my scenario is based on getting back to a power run game like when we had Deuce.

Everyone assumes that from now on no HBs will be taken in the first and I disagree with that, and there will definitely be a couple taken in the 2nd.

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Robinson workhorse

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This is where I see the argument for NOT doing it. This isn't about good running like with a combo of Ingram and Robinson. This is about power running and pushing the pile like we had with Deuce, Ivory(when healthy), and maybe Robinson.

Maybe Robinson takes looking at a power runner out of the equation. I'd still like to get someone dominant like Deuce was though.

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More likely than a power back I could see a Sproles type of scat back drafted.

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No bearing on my scenario. It wasn't about what we may be lacking and might go for. It was about whether we should get a power runner or not.

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Maybe Robinson takes looking at a power runner out of the equation. I'd still like to get someone dominant like Deuce was though.

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Talk about luxury.

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No bearing on my scenario. It wasn't about what we may be lacking and might go for. It was about whether we should get a power runner or not.

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Bearing in that if part of their draft day goals was to get a scatback then the likelihood of drafting another power runner is diminished.

I believe that story that Parcells told Payton he had Curtis Martin sitting there and he wasn't using him. We haven't had a RB with 200+ carries since Deuce in 2006. It might not be possible with a heavy Ingram-Robinson grind load. 300 carries between them is certainly an attainable goal.

To accomplish that we'd prolly see going with the hot hand (or legs), rotate halves, etc. However it is accomplished, we'll still see the Payton massive player rotations but waaaay less with the RBs.

Here's one to look up- Most 100 yard rushing games by individual RBs in the Payton era? Good odds we might see a new high in this- whatever it is.

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He's younger,

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They're actually the same age, somehow.

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He's younger in carries age anyway

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Yeah, I'm sure he hasn't been run into the ground as much as Saban ensures his players are.

I think the thing in both 2006 and 2009 was that if the Saints needed to run, they were able to do that consistently. The ratio is definitely important, but realistically what was more important was being able to move the ball on the ground when the team wanted to.

Honestly, I like the backs we have, but wouldn't mind a legit powerback like Carlos Hyde or maybe even a Jeremy Hill with our 2nd or 3rd pick if available. They bring a lot to the game, and we may lose/get rid of PT and Ingram after this coming season anyhow.