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Police accused of killing kid, staging scene
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:42 am
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:42 am
Heres another one for you guys... Seriously, how fricking difficult would it be for departments to pony up the $300-500 for each officer to have a Go-Pro on them at all times. I'd be interested to see how much the number of Police Abuse/Police Murders would fall.
Who knows what the truth is with this instance, but I would think it would be pretty easy for a medical examiner to determine a single impact of a flashlight to the head compared to a fricking train.
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Who knows what the truth is with this instance, but I would think it would be pretty easy for a medical examiner to determine a single impact of a flashlight to the head compared to a fricking train.
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The police told her that on May 5, 2013, four officers spotted her son, Deion Fludd, and his girlfriend squeezing through a turnstile at the Rockaway Avenue station in Brownsville on a single MetroCard swipe. After the officers asked for their identifications and began to make an arrest, Deion fled, running onto the C train tracks, the police told her.
Karen, 48, said police told her that after her son took off, a subway train clipped him, fracturing his skull and two parts of his spine, according to police.
But before he died from his injuries on July 12, 2013, Deion gave his mother a blow-by-blow account that didn’t involve a subway train.
“We asked him if he got hit by a train. He immediately said, 'No,'” Karen recalled her son telling her at Kings County Hospital, where he was treated for nearly two months. “He was very adamant that he did not get hit by a train.”
She said her son told her he did flee police when the officers tried to arrest him. He ran the length of the subway platform as officers followed him and bounded onto the C line tracks, running to the platform at the next station at Ralph Avenue.
There, an officer caught him and hit him on the back of the head with a flashlight, according to Deion’s account.
Deion told his mom that officers then held him down with their feet on his back as he struggled until his voice suddenly stopped working.
“They said, ‘Oh, you gonna be running? We are going to make sure your arse don’t run again,’” Deion recalled the officers telling him, according to Karen.
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Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:44 am to Lsut81
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Oh, you gonna be running? We are going to make sure your arse don’t run again,’”
this sounds believable
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:46 am to Lsut81
The cops in the country are out of control.
The feds are out of control.
Their training treats the citizenry THEY SERVE as an armed insurgency to be dominated and crushed.
Things will only get worse until there is some event, some act so heinous that even everyday people stop and go "shite, it's really that bad".
Then things will get really bad for everyone as I fear we will head into civil unrest on a national level.
The feds are out of control.
Their training treats the citizenry THEY SERVE as an armed insurgency to be dominated and crushed.
Things will only get worse until there is some event, some act so heinous that even everyday people stop and go "shite, it's really that bad".
Then things will get really bad for everyone as I fear we will head into civil unrest on a national level.
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:48 am to Lsut81
They should be able to verify whether or not a train hit him. It's a big deal when people get hit by trains. They gotta investigate, there are delays, etc.
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:49 am to CptBengal
quote:What do expect when the leaders of this country have convinced LE that the greatest threat to society is an uprising from the citizens.
The cops in the country are out of control.
The feds are out of control.
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:50 am to Lsut81
1. Sounds like he's still alive, but paralyzed. eta - saw where he died from cardiac arrest.. my bad
2. MTA shows a record of hittin a pedestrian that night.
3. The girl he was with confirms police stopped at least one train during this time.
This one needs to play out before jumping to conclusions.
2. MTA shows a record of hittin a pedestrian that night.
3. The girl he was with confirms police stopped at least one train during this time.
This one needs to play out before jumping to conclusions.
This post was edited on 4/11/14 at 10:52 am
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:50 am to Displaced
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this sounds believable
Whats it like having your head in the sand?
Nobody knows what the exact circumstances were in this situation, but to believe that cops would not retaliate and say this is fricking naive.
I've gone to dinner with my police buddies and have heard many a stories like that.
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:57 am to Alahunter
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This one needs to play out before jumping to conclusions.
Agree to a certain extent, but this goes back to my original statement that instances like this would quickly dry up if all officers were forced to wear go-pros and all of their encounters were recorded.
btw, it wouldn't have been the Flashlight/Train Hit that paralyzed the kid, it would have been what he claimed happened after with them standing on his spine.
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:00 am to Lsut81
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all officers were forced to wear go-pros and all of their encounters were recorded.
Agree. Technology is there. This would help LE in a lot of instances too, I think. It would provide great training opportunities as well, to learn from mistakes. And emphasize things done well.
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btw, it wouldn't have been the Flashlight/Train Hit that paralyzed the kid, it would have been what he claimed happened after with them standing on his spine
True. Seems an autopsy should show consistencies with any type of claims.
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:02 am to Alahunter
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This would help LE in a lot of instances too
It would help both sides of the equation... Cops wouldn't be doing dirty shite and you wouldn't have all the false police brutality lawsuits.
Its a win/win on both sides of the aisle.
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:21 am to CptBengal
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:23 am to Lsut81
I was told about two people being killed by a state trooper in Texas years ago. The person(the third robber who lived to go to a court) who conveyed the story that was the truth in fact. The trooper waited til the robbers were out of a convience store and then called out to the three "April Fools Mother frickers" as he shot them in the back. The story came from another state trooper that told it to my uncle who worked in one of those country club settings of the prison system of Texas.
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:38 am to Lsut81
quote:If I were a police officer, I wouldn't leave home without one. The few good and descent cops probably wouldn't mind them, it's the bad ones that want to continue to hide. The government wants to put cameras everywhere so they can watch the citizens and won't blink an eye at the cost of those cameras, but when it comes to the police and watching their own, it cost too much.
$300-500 for each officer to have a Go-Pro on them at all times.
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:42 am to sec13rowBBseat28
Did the boy's momma get police in there to get the kids sworn statement or did mom just come up with dis after Jr. died?
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:46 am to real
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If I were a police officer, I wouldn't leave home without one.
Yup, it protects the officers as much as the community.
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come up with dis after Jr. died?
Nice subtle racist remark...
Either way, I guess you're ok with a 17yr old dying over $2.50?
Posted on 4/11/14 at 1:52 pm to Lsut81
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This post was edited on 6/15/14 at 11:26 am
Posted on 4/11/14 at 2:02 pm to Lsut81
Thanks, No im not happy any kid died.Thats not what i address, i personally hate cops. I just wonder if his mom got someone in to take her baby's statement before he died? I mean 2 months should be long enough time to get that done right?
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This post was edited on 4/11/14 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 4/11/14 at 2:06 pm to Negative Nomad
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You have no idea how incorrect you are. It may protect the officer but it will create a culture of cops who won't give a shite even more than they do now. They won't pursue or engage people out of fear of being constantly scrutinized by the media & public opinion. Best way to stay out of trouble is to not do anything.
That's not a persuasive argument.
If that's the best argument against the idea, then I'm definitely for it.
Posted on 4/11/14 at 2:26 pm to Negative Nomad
quote:Another bullshite excuse.
They won't pursue or engage people out of fear of being constantly scrutinized by the media & public opinion. Best way to stay out of trouble is to not do anything.
quote:more bullshite
The departments don't want to discourage people from coming forward. They walk out scott free while the officer gets drug through the mud over bullshite complaints.
quote:Don't need them in their house, they can't kill or falsely accuse someone from there.
Why stop there? Put cameras in their homes and monitor all internet traffic too.
quote:Even doing that will get you, or your pet, shot today.
How about don't break the law and comply with law enforcement
This post was edited on 4/11/14 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 4/11/14 at 2:37 pm to Lsut81
Sucks, but that kid wouldn't know what hit him, a cop or a train. It is believable that the cops said something like that to him, but it really matters what hit him in the head. the train of the flashlight.
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