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USMNT Backline 2010 WC or 2014 WC: Which has better Options?

Posted on 4/8/14 at 2:03 pm
Posted by Shane4689
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 2:03 pm
?
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 2:09 pm to
No bornstien on 2014.

2014>>>2010.
Posted by thenry712
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 2:10 pm to
It would help to list the options for 2010 and 2014:

2010 defenders:
Bocanegra
DeMerit
Onyewu
Cherundolo
Bornstein
Spector (DNP)
Goodson (DNP)

Likely 2014 Defenders:

Besler
Gonzales
Cameron
F. Johnson
Goodson
Beasley?
Parkhurst?
Evans?
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 2:11 pm
Posted by uway
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 3:03 pm to
quote:

Bocanegra
DeMerit
Onyewu
Cherundolo

At peak form would be a close battle with
quote:

Besler
Gonzales
Cameron
F. Johnson


As of 2010/2014 form, I'll go with our current options, assuming JK plays Cameron at RB and Johnson at LB.
Could we not very well see this at the WC instead:
Beasley Besler Gonzales Evans

In that case, I'll take 2010 even with Boca at LB.
Posted by thenry712
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 3:07 pm to
We have to remember that our backline shifted before the Algeria game from:

Bocanegra-DeMerit-Onyewu-Cherundolo

to

Bornstein-Bocanegra-DeMerit-Cherundolo

Posted by Broski
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 3:12 pm to
Remember that Gooch was coming off of the ACL injury and was 70% at best. We also have to remember that Bornstein was surprisingly solid in the Algeria and Ghana matches.
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 3:28 pm
Posted by SouthOfSouth
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 3:25 pm to
2010 had Spector so...

2010 > 2014
Posted by TheIrishFro
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 4:43 pm to
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Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 4:47 pm to
Neither were/are good enough. We've struggled producing quality, international level, defensive players.

Omar needs to get his stuff together, because in my mind, he's too much of a liability to start right now. Besler is the only sure thing across our back line, which is kind of scary in itself.
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 4:52 pm
Posted by rdw1690
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 5:00 pm to
I'd say Cameron is pretty reliable defender and Fabian if he plays there. We're really only missing a CB to pair with Besler.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

I'd say Cameron is pretty reliable defender and Fabian if he plays there. We're really only missing a CB to pair with Besler.



This.

It comes down to if one of Gonzales/Goodson/Brooks/Gooch (All 4 will be in the May camp) can step up. Unfortunately, all 4 of those guys make my arse clinch.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

We're really only missing a CB to pair with Besler.


It might end up being Cameron, which is why I didn't include him as a "sure thing." He will start, I'm just not ready to pen him in as a RB. I mean, after the Mexico game, after a media person asked about Omar's play, Jurgen's quote was something along the lines of..."We have Cameron, who can play there."

I have no idea what he plans on doing with Fab, six months ago I would have said winger. Right now, I'm not so sure.
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 5:06 pm
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 5:05 pm to
That's our problem. We need a big guy. I know Gooch hasn't been the same for quite some time, but I think I trust him over Omar at this point.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 5:06 pm to
quote:

I know Gooch hasn't been the same for quite some time, but I think I trust him over Omar at this point.


I think I agree with you.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 5:15 pm to
quote:

I know Gooch hasn't been the same for quite some time, but I think I trust him over Omar at this point.



In all of the 2014 friendlies, Gooch has looked the best (outside of Besler, of course). He rated well against Ukraine, but it was just that Brooks left him out to dry way too many times.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 6:11 pm to
My first USA Jersey was a Spector jersey.
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 6:17 pm to
He's been playing consistently for Wednesday and has looked solid supposedly. They've been doing much better since he got there. Several shutouts. And then he makes these Vermaelen-like runs up the field that are hilarious.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 6:41 pm to
One thing I worry about with post-ACL injury Gooch is his play in the air. Can he still get up for the headers?
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:37 pm to
Probably so. It would be hard to be a productive CB if you can't get headers.

Also he tore his patellar tendon, not ACL. Just fyi.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:38 pm to
quote:

Likely 2014 Defenders:

Besler
Gonzales
Cameron
F. Johnson
Goodson
Beasley?
Parkhurst?
Evans?

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