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What is the republican perfect solution to rising health care costs?
Posted on 4/3/14 at 5:52 am
Posted on 4/3/14 at 5:52 am
Health care costs in the US are 20% of GDP, by far the highest in the world. We insure less people and have worse outcomes than most of the rest of the civilized world. It is a huge budgetary cost and a huge burden to he US people and particularly the US companies that largly subsidize health care costs for their employees. Indirectly or directly it affects us all.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 6:04 am to boxcar willie
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What is the republican perfect solution to rising health care costs?
there are no perfect solutions
there are reasonable ones and shitty ones
the government derived variety are the shitty kind
This post was edited on 4/3/14 at 6:06 am
Posted on 4/3/14 at 6:08 am to boxcar willie
Free Markets......
and Repeal Odumbasscare
and Repeal Odumbasscare
Posted on 4/3/14 at 6:09 am to boxcar willie
Repealing ObamaCare may help at least get them back down to where they were before this bill passed. So maybe that's a start?
Posted on 4/3/14 at 6:19 am to RedStickBR
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Repealing ObamaCare may help at least get them back down to where they were before this bill passed
rising health care costs as a percentage of GDP actually slowed down, but will continue to rise. Obama care doesn't do much to try to control health care costs in this country. Health care industry special interests and their lobbyist have a large grip on congress. Do the republicans have a plan that will do something substantial to control our out of control rising health care costs and still provide coverage to the citizens of this country?
Posted on 4/3/14 at 6:32 am to boxcar willie
The notion that there should be a "perfect solution" to every societal issue mankind faces. And that it's government's job to try to find it, is probably the biggest societal issue mankind faces today.
This post was edited on 4/3/14 at 6:39 am
Posted on 4/3/14 at 6:40 am to boxcar willie
So you want more people covered and better results, all the while driving costs down?
Noble goals, but are they realistic? Please show me examples of countries with societies as heterogeneous and large as our own, but with better health care systems, broader coverage, and lower costs.
And since you're so focused on costs, you are necessarily opposed to Obamacare, right? Or are you willing to sacrifice costs for more coverage? In which order do you prioritize these items?
Noble goals, but are they realistic? Please show me examples of countries with societies as heterogeneous and large as our own, but with better health care systems, broader coverage, and lower costs.
And since you're so focused on costs, you are necessarily opposed to Obamacare, right? Or are you willing to sacrifice costs for more coverage? In which order do you prioritize these items?
This post was edited on 4/3/14 at 6:41 am
Posted on 4/3/14 at 6:42 am to boxcar willie
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What is the republican perfect solution to rising health care costs?
Why do you care now? The left didn't care to include the Republicans in ramming through their Holy Grail of legislation that has already begun to skyrocket healthcare costs... Just wait until Oct/Nov when renewals come up.
And to answer your question, I don't think the Repubs have a silver bullet either. There is no simple solution, but there should be minor, common sense changes over an extended period of time to get to an acceptable point.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 6:44 am to theunknownknight
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Repeal ObamaCare
in 1975 we spent about $500 per capita in health care costs. In 1980 $1000, in 1990 $3000, In 2000 $5000, in 2013 about $8000. WE have been on this path long before 'obamacare'. I want to hear if there is a republican plan and what it is. They say repeal and replace. So my question is replace with what?
Posted on 4/3/14 at 6:50 am to boxcar willie
Well, judging from the early data on Obamacare, it has become part of the problem. So part of the solution could include undoing that part of the problem.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 6:51 am to boxcar willie
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in 1975 we spent about $500 per capita in health care costs. In 1980 $1000, in 1990 $3000, In 2000 $5000, in 2013 about $8000. WE have been on this path long before 'obamacare'. I want to hear if there is a republican plan and what it is. They say repeal and replace. So my question is replace with what?
This shows exactly why Obamacare was a lie and a scam rammed down the throats of the American public. It was sold as a means to curb costs and save the average family $2500 in premiums.... It has not and will not.
So basically what you are asking is... "Our plan didn't work... So what was the Republicans plan then?"
Posted on 4/3/14 at 6:56 am to boxcar willie
this plan is about as reasonable as it gets (not perfect, but that doesn't exist anyway)
Obamacare replacement
Obamacare replacement
Posted on 4/3/14 at 6:57 am to boxcar willie
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rising health care costs as a percentage of GDP actually slowed down
Then why are premiums or deductibles skyrocketing for millions of Americans?
If doctors are making less and insurance companies are making more, the only thing Ogumpcare did was enrich Big Insurance. You must be so proud of yourself.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 6:57 am to boxcar willie
At some point in time, every American has to realize that it is not the government' place to solve every issue we face. There has not been a single thing the government has controlled over the last 100 years that can be viewed as a success. Period.
This legislation was created to fail for a single payer system. Both wife and I have college degrees with great careers. We are part of the working class and do not care one bit who out there did not make the same life choices to be able to support ourselves. The mere idea of taking from the working, middle class to provide for the poor is complete bullshite. This is not how America was founded and we have completely lost our way as a society. The entitled generation is destroying everything our forefathers worked for in creating the greatest nation in the world right in front of our eyes.
In short, we had the greatest healthcare system in the world. There was no disputing that. The only reason this legislation passed is to create more people dependent on the government that will never get out of the system. This was a move to secure jobs for the liberal politicians for the future and over 59M voting Americans were pawns for their plan.
This legislation was created to fail for a single payer system. Both wife and I have college degrees with great careers. We are part of the working class and do not care one bit who out there did not make the same life choices to be able to support ourselves. The mere idea of taking from the working, middle class to provide for the poor is complete bullshite. This is not how America was founded and we have completely lost our way as a society. The entitled generation is destroying everything our forefathers worked for in creating the greatest nation in the world right in front of our eyes.
In short, we had the greatest healthcare system in the world. There was no disputing that. The only reason this legislation passed is to create more people dependent on the government that will never get out of the system. This was a move to secure jobs for the liberal politicians for the future and over 59M voting Americans were pawns for their plan.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 6:57 am to boxcar willie
So, the solution has to be "perfect"? Well, Obamacare isn't perfect.
Bag in your court, brah.
Bag in your court, brah.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 6:59 am to boxcar willie
Well if the Democrats would have atleast let the GOP have a vote on the near 100 amendments they suggested before the bill became law,like shopping cross statelines, maybe you would know their suggestions. But Ried and Pelosi and our great leader wanted nothing to do with that.
Posted on 4/3/14 at 7:00 am to boxcar willie
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Health care costs in the US are 20% of GDP, by far the highest in the world.
Very interesting point. I would also point out that on average healthcare management companies are making 3% cash on all the revenues coming in (5% if you are good). Not very profitable by any means. Doctors really aren't being compensated well considering the amount of school they have to go through; if rather be a lawyer or an investment banker or a management consultant.
So I would look at costs to reduce that amount of GDP. And I would also look at the corresponding regulations that drive cost up.
By the way interesting thought: are we just going to the doctor more? How do patient volumes compare per person in our country vs other countries?
How many I those countries treat people without insurance?
It's a complex problem dude
Posted on 4/3/14 at 7:01 am to boxcar willie
Remove government from Healthcare.
The costs started to SKYROCKET when Medicaid and government control healthcare started.
Remove them from the equation and the free market decides what something should cost.
If you want proof, look at how many Doctors are going the cash only route and look how successful they are at it. That was the model before government interfered.
The costs started to SKYROCKET when Medicaid and government control healthcare started.
Remove them from the equation and the free market decides what something should cost.
If you want proof, look at how many Doctors are going the cash only route and look how successful they are at it. That was the model before government interfered.
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