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Obamacare Estimates @ 858k newly insured

Posted on 4/1/14 at 3:23 pm
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80151 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 3:23 pm
So who do you believe, this administration or a non profit research group?

quote:

The RAND study, which has not been published – only the Los Angeles Times has seen it – found that just 23 per cent of new enrollees had no insurance before signing up.

And of those newly insured Americans, just 53 per cent have paid their first month's premiums.
If those numbers hold, the actual net gain of paid policies among Americans who lacked medical insurance in the pre-Obamacare days would be just 858,298.



LINK
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76519 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 3:23 pm to
That's damning for the administration if true.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72078 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 3:25 pm to
Seems extremely low, but is definitely more believable than the BS 9 million claim.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76519 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 3:26 pm to
This is newly insured.

It isn't out of the realm of possibility, espeically with so many individuals being a part of the ACA due to medicaid expansion.

And those that actually paid dues.

It's pretty clear the administration is lying to us, but we all knew (and expected that).
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80151 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

Seems extremely low, but is definitely more believable than the BS 9 million claim.


Not really... Its about on par what I had estimated 2 weeks ago by using two different surveys. One of which has % of newly enrolled and the other that had % that have actually paid.

It was 580k at the beginning of March w/ 5.5m "Enrolled"
Posted by roguetiger15
Member since Jan 2013
16165 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 3:28 pm to
One of obama's "letters from an American" said she was a bartender, the only time she's had health insurance was a couple times through planned parenthood. Wow.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80151 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 3:29 pm to
Listening to the dipshit's speech... Seriously, frick this man. He is a piece of shite.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72078 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

It's pretty clear the administration is lying to us, but we all knew (and expected that).
It is obvious to any honest or semi-intelligent individual that this admin's numbers are complete lies.
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
7722 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 3:30 pm to
What happened to the 30+ million we heard about everyday for nearly two years before this joker was passed?

How can anyone defend this shite law?

I gave up defending the Bush after a certain point, these libs don't give up. I guess because the media pushes their agenda
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80151 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 3:32 pm to
quote:

What happened to the 30+ million we heard about everyday for nearly two years before this joker was passed?


That's irrelevant to the discussion... I'll admit even with a perfect execution of a perfect law, there was no way in hell they were getting everyone covered that quickly or ever.
Posted by NbamaTiger90
Member since Sep 2012
1752 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 3:32 pm to
Not sure which one I hate the most. Biden or Obama.
Posted by pistolpete23
In the present
Member since Dec 2007
7142 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

President Obama will deliver a triumphant speech Tuesday afternoon following a panic-induced enrollment flood at the last minute


Posted by roguetiger15
Member since Jan 2013
16165 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 3:36 pm to
They have been creating this speech for weeks
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
7722 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

That's irrelevant to the discussion


Is it? It was sold to us by saying it insures the uninsured, and those who have it and like can keep it. Neither is true

Even if it's the 9 million the administration is claiming

Just funny how you don't hear the 30 million number everyday. They brag about 6-9 million
This post was edited on 4/1/14 at 3:43 pm
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19344 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 3:42 pm to
quote:

Seems extremely low, but is definitely more believable than the BS 9 million claim

That 9 million counts something like 4 million new Medicaid enrollees and 2.5 million under-26 year olds who get to stay on their parents coverage. So 9 million enrollees is probably correct just skewed.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11875 posts
Posted on 4/1/14 at 3:43 pm to
At this point, it's easier to just list the few true things he's said.
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