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Weed and Feed help
Posted on 3/31/14 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 3/31/14 at 1:22 pm
First summer in a new house.
The St. Aug has a lot of dollar-weed, clover and random trash weed in it. I just put out Scott's weed & feed but the bag says that it takes 4 annual feedings to really get the weeds out for good.
Is there anything i can do to accelerate this process?
The St. Aug has a lot of dollar-weed, clover and random trash weed in it. I just put out Scott's weed & feed but the bag says that it takes 4 annual feedings to really get the weeds out for good.
Is there anything i can do to accelerate this process?
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 1:26 pm to Mr.Perfect
Stop using weed and feed. Those are two separate lawn treatments that need to be addressed at different times of the year. Spray it with a Trimec product (Weed Free Zone, etc) at a rate of 1.5 oz per 1000 square feet.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 1:27 pm to Mr.Perfect
Use any spray for southern lawns. I just put down a product I got from Home Depot made by Bayer yesterday and most of the weeds were wilted this morning. You probably put down atrazine, the spray will be 2-4D. It's just a bottle that attaches to the end of your hose.
ETA: I agree it's a little too early to be feeding. Use separate products.
ETA: I agree it's a little too early to be feeding. Use separate products.
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 3/31/14 at 1:31 pm to skidry
thanks to you both.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 1:40 pm to Mr.Perfect
Using a hose-end sprayer like skidry mentioned is the easiest way for the average homeowner to put out chemical. If you do decide to buy a concentrate, make sure to calibrate whatever pump-up sprayer you intend to use and do your math correctly for ounces/sq feet.
ETA: I'd be happy to walk anyone through calibration procedure for pump sprayers if ya need help
ETA: I'd be happy to walk anyone through calibration procedure for pump sprayers if ya need help
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 3/31/14 at 1:43 pm to bootlegger
i have a pump sprayer and part of the yard is pretty for from the reach of a hose.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 1:56 pm to bootlegger
quote:For sure.
Spray it with a Trimec product
Posted on 3/31/14 at 1:58 pm to bootlegger
quote:Too much math for me. I put 2 oz per gallon and wet it good.
If you do decide to buy a concentrate, make sure to calibrate whatever pump-up sprayer you intend to use and do your math correctly for ounces/sq feet.
ETA: I'd be happy to walk anyone through calibration procedure for pump sprayers if ya need help
Posted on 3/31/14 at 2:00 pm to Geauxtiga
Team MSMA.
Team Bermuda though
Team Bermuda though
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 3/31/14 at 2:02 pm to Geauxtiga
2 oz. Per gal of Trimec?? Haha...I bet your grass yellows up good after that! With my sprayer calibrated to me, I'm at 1.5 oz/gallon. (May not sound like it, but that's a big difference)
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 3/31/14 at 2:03 pm to thedice20
MSMA kills grassy weeds. Not broadleaves like OP has.
I tend Bermuda for a living. I'm DEFINITELY on team MSMA with ya!
I tend Bermuda for a living. I'm DEFINITELY on team MSMA with ya!
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 3/31/14 at 2:07 pm to bootlegger
quote:
MSMA kills grassy weeds. Not broadleaves like OP has.
I tend Bermuda for a living. I'm DEFINITELY on team MSMA with ya!
Bootlegger, are you a landscape/lawn guy?
Can i ask you some lawn care/manicuring questions?
Posted on 3/31/14 at 2:14 pm to thedice20
quote:
Team MSMA
Won't MSMA kill the St. Aug?
I have the same issues as OP and I'm trying to find something that won't break the bank.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 2:24 pm to thedice20
I run a recreation complex. I have 12 baseball fields, 2 football fields, and a cricket field I do the turf care for.
Trimec is a great product for broad leaves like clover, dollar weed, etc. but you have to be licensed to buy it. Next best is Weed Free Zone, available at most feed stores and co-ops.
Trimec is a great product for broad leaves like clover, dollar weed, etc. but you have to be licensed to buy it. Next best is Weed Free Zone, available at most feed stores and co-ops.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 2:27 pm to bootlegger
(Tifway 419 hybrid lawn)
I sprayed MSMA a week ago. I really think i need to do a semi scalp or dethatch.
90 % of my lawn is still dormant at the moment.
Can i go ahead and scalp the hell out of it, or should i gradually take it down over 3 or so cuts ?
I sprayed MSMA a week ago. I really think i need to do a semi scalp or dethatch.
90 % of my lawn is still dormant at the moment.
Can i go ahead and scalp the hell out of it, or should i gradually take it down over 3 or so cuts ?
Posted on 3/31/14 at 2:31 pm to bootlegger
I use Weed Free Zone @ 1oz per gallon mixed with Atrizine @ 4oz per gallon. Works well on my Centipede and one area of my yard that is St. Augistine. I also use the "wet it good" method. How exactly do you calibrate a backpack sprayer?
Posted on 3/31/14 at 2:36 pm to Mr.Perfect
find out if you have the Floritam variety of St Aug before you spray it with anything containing 2,4-d. I know 2,4-d products say they are safe for St. Aug but they arent safe for that variety. Atrazine is generally safer for St Aug lawns.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 2:37 pm to thedice20
If you're still pretty dormant, scalp it. Blow your clippings into rows and use a lawn sweeper to collect and remove them. Then, just stay consistent on your cutting height and mow often. At the end of April, you can spray Solace, which will restrict growth height of the grass and force it to grow tighter, as well as cut your mowings down by roughly 1/3. I have some areas that are common Bermuda, and I've scalped them during the middle of the growing season. After three weeks of consistent mowing, they were back green and tight. Looked like hell for those few weeks though!
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 3/31/14 at 2:45 pm to bootlegger
quote:
If you're still pretty dormant, scalp it. Blow your clippings into rows and use a lawn sweeper to collect and remove them. Then, just stay consistent on your cutting height and mow often. At the end of April, you can spray Solace, which will restrict growth height of the grass and force it to grow tighter, as well as cut your mowings down by roughly 1/3. I have some areas that are common Bermuda, and I've scalped them during the middle of the growing season. After three weeks of consistent mowing, they were back green and tight. Looked like hell for those few weeks though!
Thanks, this is exactly what i was thinking..
A quick google search and i am not finding the Solace product for sale. Is "Embark" the same thing??
Posted on 3/31/14 at 2:51 pm to MagnumTA
Measure out an area 18.5 ft x 18.5 ft. If you have an adjustable tip, set it and don't touch it. Using as consistent of a pressure as you can, as well as consistent UNIFORM spray path, time yourself w a stopwatch and see how long it takes to spray the 18.5' square area. Then, for the same amount of time, spray into a container and measure how many ounces. Because 18.5' square is 1/128 of an acre, those ounces convert directly to gallons per acre.
So, if it took you 1:20 to cover 18.5' square, and you sprayed 60 ounces, you are spraying 60 gallons per acre with your sprayer.
Remembering 128 ounces per gallon, and 43,580 sq ft per acre, it's fairly simple to deduce (using the chemical label as a guide) how much chemical to apply to an area of a yard.
So, if it took you 1:20 to cover 18.5' square, and you sprayed 60 ounces, you are spraying 60 gallons per acre with your sprayer.
Remembering 128 ounces per gallon, and 43,580 sq ft per acre, it's fairly simple to deduce (using the chemical label as a guide) how much chemical to apply to an area of a yard.
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 2:54 pm
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