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Oilfield workers: the best argument against unions?
Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:45 am
Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:45 am
Is there any other industry where it is commonplace for a guy with only a high school degree to be making above 100,000/200,00/300,000 dollars?
If this isn't the most damning evidence for the economic atrocities that unions have brought upon their membership, I don't know what is.
Thoughts?
If this isn't the most damning evidence for the economic atrocities that unions have brought upon their membership, I don't know what is.
Thoughts?
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:47 am to TheHiddenFlask
What proof do you have that the workers would not be earing more with unions?
Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:51 am to Eurocat
I have no direct proof. Such evidence is impossible.
Would you assert that there is no pay ceiling associated with being a union worker?
Can you name any unionized industry that pays it's workers as well?
Would you assert that there is no pay ceiling associated with being a union worker?
Can you name any unionized industry that pays it's workers as well?
Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:52 am to Eurocat
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What proof do you have that the workers would not be earing more with unions?
Probably the same "proof" you have that unionized workers would be earning less without them.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:52 am to TheHiddenFlask
i don't know about "oilfield" guys, but there are unions for operators here in LC
i have a friend who was in one but i think got out
i have a friend who was in one but i think got out
Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:56 am to TheHiddenFlask
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an you name any unionized industry that pays it's workers as well?
What do airline pilots earn?
I can't think of any that don't involve high skill levels or certifications.
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 10:07 am
Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:57 am to Eurocat
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What proof do you have that the workers would not be earing more with unions?
Ok. Give us examples of union employees with comparable jobs/skills/experience with equal or greater incomes.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:57 am to dewster
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quote:
an you name any unionized industry that pays it's workers as well?
What do airline pilots earn?
NFL, NBA, MLB?
Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:59 am to Eurocat
I have experience with working in union shops and non-union shops and the latter earns at least three dollars more per hour easily.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:59 am to TheHiddenFlask
O&G workers probably only benefit from a union if there's safety concerns due to shortcuts being taken.
Not sure what kind of money they make but everyone on the OT makes $100k+ which seems good.
Not sure what kind of money they make but everyone on the OT makes $100k+ which seems good.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:00 am to Y.A. Tittle
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an you name any unionized industry that pays it's workers as well? What do airline pilots earn? NFL, NBA, MLB?
Not equal in skills or education and training. These are highschool educated welders and shite making as much or more than airline pilots. Think about that.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:02 am to SmackoverHawg
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Ok. Give us examples of union employees with comparable jobs/skills/experience with equal or greater incomes.
maritime industry
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:03 am to Asgard Device
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Not sure what kind of money they make but everyone on the OT makes $100k+ which seems good.
I know oilfield roughnecks making $150-200k up there. And they routinely make >$100k working offshore.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:04 am to Jones
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maritime industry
Specific examples? What positions pay this?
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:05 am to SmackoverHawg
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Not equal in skills or education and training. These are highschool educated welders and shite making as much or more than airline pilots. Think about that.
I believe the pay of both NFL players and oilfield welders is commensurate with the value of their skills, with neither being significantly correlated to their membership in a union or not.
In other words, I basically agree with you (I think).
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:07 am to SmackoverHawg
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I know oilfield roughnecks making $150-200k up there.
Yeah, but roughnecks are humanity's elite.
They'll be the ones chosen to carry out a highly technical, dangerous one-shot space mission to save the planet.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:07 am to SmackoverHawg
I'll have to ask a friend what he makes working the Alaskan slopes per week his shift is three on and three off with airfare paid by the company totally.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:10 am to SmackoverHawg
Officers on ships(gulf of mexico, blue water) make 6 figures. Some of the captains for the OSV ships in the gulf are making 1k+ per day. Depending on where youre willing to work, they can make some serious bank. Older guy I know was offered a job on a boat as a chief engineer that would be in and out of the North Sea and some very harsh condition areas. It was paying $2200/day.
shite a deckhand on a inland tugboat can make 50k/year and only work 6 months out of that year.
shite a deckhand on a inland tugboat can make 50k/year and only work 6 months out of that year.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:11 am to Asgard Device
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Not sure what kind of money they make but everyone on the OT makes $100k+ which seems good.
Everyone on the OT also runs a 4.6 40 or better, under a 6 minute mile, and only hooks up with chicks AT LEAST of the quality of that whale Kate Upton.
But yeah...oil and gas industry provides good, high paying jobs to hundreds of thousands of Americans without dependence of Mother Government. That drives the Left insane.
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 10:13 am
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:13 am to Jones
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Officers on ships(gulf of mexico, blue water) make 6 figures. Some of the captains for the OSV ships in the gulf are making 1k+ per day. Depending on where youre willing to work, they can make some serious bank. Older guy I know was offered a job on a boat as a chief engineer that would be in and out of the North Sea and some very harsh condition areas. It was paying $2200/day.
Exactly!!! The people I know are right out of school with no experience and no skills. Some have just basic oilfield skills making $150-200k. So they'd be on par with the deckhands making 50k/yr. I don't know their hourly rates, but they also get per diems for room and board while there and travel expenses.
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