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Suggestions for C & R weapons
Posted on 3/27/14 at 8:59 pm
Posted on 3/27/14 at 8:59 pm
Bought a Mosin M44 a while back and caught the bug. Any suggestions for good serviceable C&R guns, pistols or rifles, that I can pick up for ~ $500. Got a Garand from my granpa but haven't fired it because it hasn't been shot since WWII. Not concerned about safety, just like the historical aspect of it.
Thinking about a Tokarev Zastava or a Schmidt Rubin carbine.
Thoughts?
Thinking about a Tokarev Zastava or a Schmidt Rubin carbine.
Thoughts?
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:00 pm to Tbonepatron
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C & R weapon
What dis means?
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:07 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Curios & Relics - basically older weapons that can be purchased with a C&R license without going thru a "full" FFL dealer.
Q: What is a firearm curio or relic?
Firearm curios or relics include firearms which have special value to collectors because they possess some qualities not ordinarily associated with firearms intended for sporting use or as offensive or defensive weapons. To be recognized as curios or relics, firearms must fall within one of the following categories:
Have been manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date, but not including replicas thereof; or
Be certified by the curator of a municipal, State, or Federal museum which exhibits firearms to be curios or relics of museum interest; or
Derive a substantial part of their monetary value from the fact that they are novel, rare, bizarre, or from the fact of their association with some historical figure, period, or event.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:28 pm to Tbonepatron
CZ 52 and CZ 82.
SKS
Nagant revolver
Do you have a C&R license?
SKS
Nagant revolver
Do you have a C&R license?
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:43 pm to Capital Cajun
SKS
91/30
Vz 24
K11
K31
M44
98 gew
K98
Mausers
Aristika 99
Lee enfield
Got to gunboards.com or milsurp rifles.com or other gun forums.and visit their curio and relic sections
91/30
Vz 24
K11
K31
M44
98 gew
K98
Mausers
Aristika 99
Lee enfield
Got to gunboards.com or milsurp rifles.com or other gun forums.and visit their curio and relic sections
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:49 pm to Capital Cajun
Don't have a license, but will probably get one since as I understand it, they are free (or super cheap). Thanks for the suggestions, I'll check them out.
Ohh and pics of the suggestions would be appreciated!
Ohh and pics of the suggestions would be appreciated!
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:05 pm to Tbonepatron
$30 for a 3 year license.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:22 pm to bulldog95
C&R Dealers
AIM
Adam's Guns
Allan's Armory
Allegheny Arsenal
Antique Firearms
The Armchair Gunshow
AztecGuns
BDL Ltd.
Brock's Guns
Buy Milsurp
CDNN Investments
Cherry's Fine Guns
Century Arms
Centerfire Systems
Classic Arms
Cole Distributing Inc
Collectible Firearms and Edged Weapons
Collector's Firearms
Cruffler
David Condon Inc.
Empire Arms
FGS Firearms
Florida Gun Works
IO Inc, formerly Inter-Ordnance of America LP
J&G Sales
Keep Shooting
MacTec Enterprises
Military Gun Supply
MCS Firearms
SPECIALTIES, Inc
Ocala Armory
Ohio Ordnance Works
Old Guns
Military Gun Supply
Ricky's Gun Room Inc.
Samco Global Arms
Sarco
Simpson Ltd.
Southern Ohio Gun
Springfield Sporters
Posted on 3/28/14 at 6:59 am to Tbonepatron
How about a M1A1 with folding stock and 30 round mag...?
Was on my list for a while, but that .30 carbine round is just a bit too weak. It's a bad arse rifle though - paratrooper carbine from WWII
Was on my list for a while, but that .30 carbine round is just a bit too weak. It's a bad arse rifle though - paratrooper carbine from WWII
Posted on 3/28/14 at 7:47 am to WildTchoupitoulas
Those 30 carbines are beautiful rifles. But I agree - expensive to shoot and underpowered. The defensive carbine now is completely different than it was 60 years ago, that's for sure.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 8:50 am to bapple
quote:
expensive to shoot and underpowered.
I went with a carbine that'll push a 125 gr. .357 factory load up to 2,300 fps, whereas the .30 carbine is listed at about 2,000 fps with a 110 gr. bullet. Slightly more power, much cheaper/easier to find ammo.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:38 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:
expensive to shoot and underpowered.
For plinking, at $.40 per round, I'll agree with the "expensive to shoot" (compared to .223 FMJ ammo at around $.30 per round).
Under-powered ?? Nnnah.
CorBox DPX (solid copper) rounds penetrate 18+ inches in 10% ballistic gelatin, and expand to almost .60 caliber, according to Doc Roberts' tests. If anything, its terminal ballistics might be too powerful for SD.
I'm not sure how I'd need more "power" from a lightweight, easily controllable rifle for home defense or truck gun usage.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:52 pm to dawg23
quote:
CorBox DPX (solid copper) rounds penetrate 18+ inches in 10% ballistic gelatin, and expand to almost .60 caliber, according to Doc Roberts' tests. If anything, its terminal ballistics might be too powerful for SD. I'm not sure how I'd need more "power" from a lightweight, easily controllable rifle for home defense or truck gun usage.
My application is basically a truck/farm gun. I can get better performance with a .357 Buffalo Bore for less money than those .30 corbons. I can load standard .357, .38 +p, or just plain old .38 LRNs for plinking. I can easily go from 125 gr. to 180 gr. Add in the use of .357/.38 in my revolver, and it just made more sense to me.
So I don't have to have a more powerful round than the .30, but I can easily load for more power if I want (hogs), or power down and cheap.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:59 pm to bulldog95
You get your license yet?
It feels like a month already for me, even though it's only been a week.
It feels like a month already for me, even though it's only been a week.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 8:02 pm to bulldog95
quote:
SKS
91/30
Vz 24
K11
K31
M44
98 gew
K98
Mausers
Aristika 99
Lee enfield
Nobody mentioned Lugers yet ??
Posted on 3/30/14 at 8:07 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:
So I don't have to have a more powerful round than the .30, but I can easily load for more power if I want (hogs), or power down and cheap.
Those are all very good points.
But it might be worth noting that .30 carbines are 10x more plentiful than .357 carbines.
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