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On the Hobby Lobby case, how is it not unconstitutional coercion?
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:53 pm
The argument that they have a choice to pay the tax is completely bogus. Does the government have the power to violate your rights simply by offering you the alternative to pay a tax?
If the government told media companies they must read from a script when reporting on the White House, or pay a tax, is that not violation of their rights under the Constitution?
How about the Government requires you to buy a gun and keep it in your house for protection or pay a tax. Is that not a violation of your rights?
How is telling an employer they must include something some people feel is against their religious beliefs in healthcare benefits or pay a tax not a violation of the constitution?
Edumacate me please.
If the government told media companies they must read from a script when reporting on the White House, or pay a tax, is that not violation of their rights under the Constitution?
How about the Government requires you to buy a gun and keep it in your house for protection or pay a tax. Is that not a violation of your rights?
How is telling an employer they must include something some people feel is against their religious beliefs in healthcare benefits or pay a tax not a violation of the constitution?
Edumacate me please.
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:00 pm to Captain Rumbeard
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:01 pm to Captain Rumbeard
govt is allowed to tax your activities to make you change your behavior.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:20 pm to udtiger
OK that's just lovely.
Writers of the Constitution are rolling over in their graves.
Writers of the Constitution are rolling over in their graves.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:22 pm to Captain Rumbeard
It is completely unconstitutional and it goes against everything America was built on. This is why big government is dangerous, they don't stop. If we give them an inch they take a mile. This is what happens when people vote because of free shite.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:27 pm to Chimlim
I have never seen a corporation in church.
Corporations have no 5th Amendment rights, according to the Supreme Ct.
Corporations have no 5th Amendment rights, according to the Supreme Ct.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:28 pm to Captain Rumbeard
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How is telling an employer they must include something some people feel is against their religious beliefs in healthcare benefits or pay a tax not a violation of the constitution?
SC courts says it isn't, so it isn't. That's all we need to know
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:31 pm to BayouBandit24
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SC courts says it isn't, so it isn't. That's all we need to know
SC minus lesbians = opposite. I've been warning you people about lesbians for 10 years. But did you listen? Noooo.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:35 pm to Captain Rumbeard
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The argument that they have a choice to pay the tax is completely bogus. Does the government have the power to violate your rights simply by offering you the alternative to pay a tax?
The government isn't violating anyone's rights.
Scalia said it best:
"The rule respondents favor would open the prospect of constitutionally required religious exemptions from civic obligations of almost every conceivable kind, ranging from compulsory military service, to the payment of taxes, to health and safety regulation such as manslaughter and child neglect laws, compulsory vaccination laws, drug laws, and traffic laws; to social welfare legislation such as minimum wage laws, child labor laws, animal cruelty laws, environmental protection laws, and laws providing for equality of opportunity for the races."
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:39 pm to SpidermanTUba
Government is basically telling Hobby Lobby to either offer coverage that goes against their religious beliefs or pay a tax.
Care to explain how that is not violating Hobby Lobby's religious rights?
Care to explain how that is not violating Hobby Lobby's religious rights?
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:49 pm to SpidermanTUba
So you'd be perfectly OK with this then.
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How about the Government requires you to buy a gun and keep it in your house for protection or pay a tax.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:50 pm to Captain Rumbeard
The more correct analogy would be the government requires all employers to provide the money for their employees to buy a gun or pay a tax.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:55 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Guess that's OK since Obamacare is.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:58 pm to Chimlim
quote:
Government is basically telling Hobby Lobby to either offer coverage that goes against their religious beliefs or pay a tax.
hobby lobby has no religious beliefs
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:59 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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The more correct analogy would be the government requires all employers to provide the money for their employees to buy a gun or pay a tax.
Or, the government requires that the employer must actually buy each employee a fully automatic machine gun -- with no less than a 100 round capacity -- or pay a tax.
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:59 pm to matthew25
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Corporations have no 5th Amendment rights, according to the Supreme Ct.
BUT, they have 1st Amendment rights (Citizens United).
Wanna guess which one has "freedom of religion" in it (1st or 5th)?
Posted on 3/26/14 at 4:03 pm to Alabama Slim
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hobby lobby has no religious beliefs
Why not?
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 3/26/14 at 4:14 pm to C
quote:This a perversion. The purpose of the tax code should be to raise revenue in the least obtrusive manner to they taxpayer.
govt is allowed to tax your activities to make you change your behavior.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 4:15 pm to Alabama Slim
quote:Why are they closed on Sunday?
hobby lobby has no religious beliefs
Clearly, they do.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 4:15 pm to Alabama Slim
quote:
hobby lobby has no religious beliefs
Splain yourself.
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